Israel’s Knesset passed a resolution rejecting the establishment of a Palestinian state on Thursday.
The bill, co-sponsored by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition along with right-wing parties in the opposition, was passed by an overwhelming majority of 68 votes, with only nine MKs voting against it.
Benny Gantz, seen by many leaders in the West as a more moderate figure than Netanyahu, voted in favour of the bill, along with his party.
China: land grab by claiming the sea and Taiwan is theirs = bad guy
Russia: land grab by invade Ukraine claiming Ukraine is theirs = bad guy
Israel: land grab by invade West Bank and Gaza, saying Palestine shouldn’t exists and claiming both land is theirs
Guys, i might risk getting called antisemite but…i think Israel is the bad guy here?
Russia isn’t claiming Ukraine is theirs.
That’s why, before invading, they formally recognized the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk from Ukraine.
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Is a Tankie someone who believes facts?
There are many facts that tankies usually believe, and importantly many of those typically believed by them are known to be false.
I believe you’re never going to own a house.
Am I wrong about that?
They have since passed a bill annexing those areas, plus more, and even in the official “justification” for the war Russia clearly expects to be able to decide Ukraine’s foreign policy
And none of that means Russia is claiming Ukraine.
In fact, by recognizing Luhansk and Donetsk as independent countries, they were explicitly saying that Luhansk and Donetsk were not part of Russia.
It’s not the same situation as Taiwan or Palestine, where China and Israel respectively claim that those territories are theirs and include them on official maps.
Edit: Look at official maps of Russia from Russia. The annexed territories are shown as part of Russia, but the rest of Ukraine isn’t.
Edit 2: You guys, this isn’t a matter of opinion. You’re just misunderstanding the situation. “Territory X belongs to country Y” can depend on who you ask, but “Country Y claims territory X” is a simple fact that is either true or not.
They were boiling the frog by recognizing LPR and DPR prior to annexation, don’t be thick. You can read Putin’s speeches where he clearly states he believes that Ukraine is part of “Russkiy Mir”, not a real country.
don’t be thick
Where am I being thick? What do you think I’m not understanding?
I don’t understand your objection to anything I’m saying.
Israel and China have somewhat understandable claims over West Bank/Gaza and Taiwan, which is why those are complicated situations. Russia makes no such claim over Ukraine.
just give up and go back to hexbear or grad.
I don’t know what those are.
Sometimes i really fucking hate being Jewish.
No one blames you. I certainly don’t.
Thank you for speaking up and your words do matter. I learned the horrors of what’s going on years ago from Jewish and Israeli authors such as Ilan Pappe.
why, did you vote for any of those guys?
I’m not an Israeli citizen. But I tell you, it’s a drag being Jewish. There’s the legit antisemitism, which I experienced primarily in my youth, and then the guilt by association because Israel is an asshole country. Oh yeah, then there’s the insufferable idiots who will call me an antisemite because I don’t believe in oppressing Palestinians.
It’s just kind of proper fucked being Jewish. I guess we get some cool shit though, like space lasers, controlling world politics, etc.
If it helps - although I’m sure you’re not hearing anything new here - plenty of people understand that Israel doesn’t represent the Jewish people. Much as Israel likes to pretend they do, and much as politicians agree because it suits their geopolitical goals, it’s not true.
Edit: I know for a fact this isnt new info because two other people said the same thing in this thread. Oh well, I’ll just add my voice to theirs.
I’m an atheist but find religions fascinating as a concept. From what I understand about Judaism,
It’s just kind of proper fucked being Jewish.
Is the essential Jewish experience that has been passed down to you by your ancestors for millenia, so at least you have that going for you?
