• Apepollo11@lemmy.world
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    Lemmy was released as an open-source fediverse alternative to Reddit.

    Just over a year after launch, r/ChapoTrapHouse, moved across after being banned from Reddit. This is likely what you’re referring to. It had well over 100,000 active users on Reddit, so represented a sudden sizable influx of users.

    I’d wager the biggest influx of people by far, though, occurred when Spez upset a majority of mods and many users by banning third party apps.

    People looked for an alternative, and Lemmy was it.

    But why are so many people who lean left politically? Because the Venn Diagram for “people who like the idea of a decentralised platform that supports everybody and is free from the machinations of millionaires”, and “people who would like society that supports everybody and is free from the machinations of millionaires” is nearly a circle.

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    No, I hate the term as it’s usually used as a pejorative and is so reductive as to be essentially meaningless. I’m a democratic socialist.

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      That’s a leftist. You’re a leftist, buddy.

      I relate a bit, though. I think it’s cringe when socialists call each other “comrade”.

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        Is a communist the same as a progressive? A democratic socialist the same as an anarchist? Call me what you want but like I said, it’s reductive and meaningless.

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          Why must we divide the tribe? I don’t know how leftist who can’t identify as such plans to exercise collective power. But you do you.

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          Progressives aren’t a thing, it’s simply an Amaerica counter label to conservatives so they have something to attack.

          And as an anarchist, I’ve no problem being lumped in with like minded views.

          We’re leftists and proud of it.

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              In regards to American politics, not individuals, they’re correct. The American “Progressive” party is majority Reagan Republicans. You have outliers like Bernie. Well, only Bernie.

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              Yes. It’s an American term used to describe those who are in opposition to conservative views. It’s not an ideology.

              But please, tell me what being a progressive values compared to any other leftist. What makes a progressive different from a anarchist, communist, or a dem soc who have defined values and beliefs?

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            Communism is a conservative authoritarian dogma. The exact opossite of progress… or anarchy.

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              Wrong.

              To play Devil’s Advocate, communism looks good on paper. The problem is human beings are involved. There will always be narcissistic, greedy, and psychopathic individuals who will abuse the will of the people to take control. There has never been a truly successful communistic system of government. Well, maybe Jeebus and the Apostles, but even Judas sold out for the silver.

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              You’re thinking of ML tankies.

              Communism is a stateless, classless, system where people enact mutualism and socialism without state coercion.

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                What makes this thing you’re describing, not anarchism?

                I think you’re thinking of anarchocommunism specifically. Which is “not all communism”™.

                State-based communism is a thing, that many people usually called tankies by others, do believe in.

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                “In Marxist philosophy, the dictatorship of the proletariat is a condition in which the proletariat, or working class, holds control over state power. The dictatorship of the proletariat is the transitional phase from a capitalist and a communist economy…”

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship_of_the_proletariat

                Except, there’s no such thing as a communist economy, so the transitional phase lasts as long as there’s capital to reallocate. Then peoole start to flee across the barbed wire and the facade falls down.

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                  The statement “communism is a conservative authoritarian dogma” being backed up by referencing the idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat is… definitely something

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    Not everyone. But it’s definitely very overrepresented here, including some large communities of extremists that I don’t typically see elsewhere.

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      Overrepresented may not be correct, the majority of the english speaking world is far to the left of the US. Even the US population is like 60-70% left leaning, it’s just that the left has lower voter participation rates.

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        Even the US population is like 60-70% left leaning, it’s just that the left has lower voter participation rates.

        Left leaning vs leftist is a much higher bar and I’d wager under 20% of the US (voting) population is leftist. That’s just based on my memory of how few leftist representatives we have in congress… Far from an exact science.

        I am definitely a liberal, but I’m by no means a leftist.

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        This used to be true, but I don’t think it is anymore. Or at least my perception is that some parts of the american left are way leftier than the europeans left are.

        Being in so close proximity to the obvious evil of communist regimes might have something to do with it.

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          There are no communist regimes…

          Both Russia and China are authoritarian dictatorships operating on a semblance of oligarchy controlled capitalism at this point.

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          What’s changed is people’s outspokenness about their political views.

          The American Left, on average, would be considered well in the middle of the right in most of the world. This has resulted in “far left” in the US encompassing everything from global centrism to far left extremism. As such, using the term is pretty pointless without adding enough context so others know what is included.

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            The problem with American Democrats is they want to fight “Fair.” Something to do with “Principles.” That’s all admirable and noble, and shit, but when your opponent is depending on that to punch you in the back of the head when you turn around, it’s extremely stupid. And they keep making the same mistake, over and over and over. Republican politicians don’t care about fairness, or morals, or ethics, or common decency. They care about winning. And they would throw their own mothers to the wolves to do it, and be proud of it if it meant victory. Kindness is weakness, cruelty is funny, and empathy and compassion is for women and pussies.

            When are they going to wake up and realize that Lucy is always, always going to yank the ball before the kick? For those of you too young to get the reference:

            https://www.cracked.com/article_37831_good-grief-how-lucy-pulling-the-football-away-from-charlie-brown-became-a-signature-peanuts-gag.html

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        Left leaning Americans are still on the right compared to most countries.

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    Lemmy definitely has a super majority of people who are politically left. Lemmy also has a very large amount of extremely politically left people. I am not sure why this is the case.

    However, not every Lemmy user is politically left.

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      Because most intelligent people understand and feel empathy and compassion. And most nerds know what it feels like to be bullied and marginalized.

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      I am not sure why this is the case.

      Because Lemmy was created by leftists having their communities banned from reddit. It is and always will be a leftist platform, same as whatever garbage Trump made will be a right wing platform.

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    I don’t know. I’m mildly left by normal standards, a Nazi by Lemmy standards and a communist by conservative standards.

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    People have a wide variety of opinions and interests that are not represented well on a two dimensional left right spectrum.

    Lemmy has a fair few people who will fight you over their own perceived interests.

    Because Lemmy is so small it’s common for the same people to argue over their interests in every community. In the morning I catch up on the all feed in 20ish minutes (I block politics and memes).

    Take that together if you say something against any groups zeitgeist or one of their trigger topics it feels like all of Lemmy is dog piling you.

    Remember online isn’t the same as real life, express yourself and share your earnest ideas and don’t care about downvotes. If someone is being unreasonable just ignore/block them.

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      Honestly, avoiding the all feed may be better for my enjoyment of the platform. On Reddit I used to just sub to my specific interests and never interacted or saw all the politics talk or general memes. When I moved here, most communities were too quiet for it to take up the same spot for me, so I started browsing by all instead.

      I’ll give it a shot, thank you for the reminder/realization.

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    Yes and no? The humans, probably. The accounts created to keep tabs on the leftist humans? Maybe not…?

    Just kidding, NO conservative or government groups have EVER silently infiltrated ANY leftist groups, and me suggesting any account here is a propaganda bot or whatever is TOTALLY outrageous!

    Post anything you want here, it’ll NEVER get screenshotted & linked back to you or your job in some giant hack in 5 years 🥳🤩😎

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    Nope, but the dangerous ideologies are the norm here. It was quite shocking after switching from reddit.

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    I don’t know that I’d describe Blue MAGA as left of anything, since they’re an pro-market authoritarian movement, but whatever they are, they’re either a majority or a VERY vocal minority.