Summer started earlier than usual this year. The Saudi government needs to install more shades and outdoor cooling, as well as perhaps reduce the number of pilgrims allowed. 1.83 million at once, not counting those without permits, is a lot at once to take care of.
People were tired after being chased by security forces before Arafat day. They were exhausted," one Arab diplomat told AFP
What? This doesn’t make any sense!
But terrible that so many people die, just to live up to a delusion.
But at least they all go straight to imaginary heaven now.
Yes there is that.
Btw I suspect Mohammed was a western plant, to prevent the Arabs from getting too far ahead scientifically. If that’s the case, it has worked better than anybody could dream of.True. The whole operation has CIA written all over it.
What better way to get facial recognition data for all Muslims than with something like the Hajj.
You’d think Allah wouldn’t allow that to happen.
Either that or he doesn’t exist.
Not sure which.
Allah does what he wants, and he is not bound by the opinions of humans.
Love the hand-waving here to justify that if your “Allah” exists (he doesn’t, there’s plenty of plot holes in the Quran), he’s clearly not so loving.
Most Wise, Most Loving, Most High (probably on weed)
Hand waving to you sure, but to many believers that is the truth. You cannot say that this action is bad because you do not possess the ability, i mean think about the butterfly effect for an example why it is not possible. But Allah is infinite therefore he possesses this ability.
Secondly it is his choice, for how to exercise his love, whether in this world or the afterworld. Muslims believe that he is most loving so when we don’t see it in this world the assumption is that we will get it in the hereafter.
This world is not a place for justice and neither is it fair, for we get it in the hereafter.
Allah doesn’t seem to give a shit about some of his most faithful humans since he lets them die of heat exhaustion while doing the specific thing he told them to do.
Not my fault if their god is an asshole.
Thats your take, not the take of the people who go there. In your eyes, letting them die is “not caring about them” but in islam, that just means that they will get much better rewards in the hereafter.
In islam, the world is a place of test, not a place where to get justice. You get justice in the hereafter.
So Allah picks and chooses amongst his most faithful who gets the best rewards?
That still makes him sound like an asshole.
Sure from your world view, because you are not omniscient. If Allah chooses to do something it is his decision, we cannot ask for an explanation, at least not in this world because that would make the “test” too easy. And that’s just if we even could understand it, which we most likely can’t.
“I can’t explain why he’s being an asshole” doesn’t make him not an asshole.
What i am saying is, it is not possible to say someone is an asshole, unless you know the full consequences of someone’s action.
To say that he is or isn’t both requires us to know this full context.
I say he isn’t an asshole because of my belief.
You say he is an asshole because of your belief.
No, no! Skydaddy good! Everyone else is ignorant!
Unironically, that is what i believe. So spot on!
I welcome this person to keep trying to convince me that their god is not an asshole for being omnipotent but letting 1000 of his faithful die for doing the specific thing he told them to do, but they’re sure going to have an uphill battle.
I don’t expect you to be convinced because obviously you are not a muslim. Im just showing the flaw in your logic/assumption
Your neckbeard, fedora, and trench coat are ready for you good sir.
It’s really sad that people like you think all atheists are that way considering people like Daniel Radcliffe and Helen Mirren, famed neckebearded fedora and trench coat wearers, are very outspoken atheists.
It’s interesting that in one post you’re a religious Jew and in another one you’re an atheist.
Surely they could just relocate the Kaaba to a more hospitable location. It’s not a large structure, should be easy to dig up and move.
Might have to update a few direction markers for Salah, though. That could be a bit of work.
Is there any religious prohibition against enclosing the whole thing? Just make everything indoors, problem solved
A better solution would be to fight climate change, it wasn’t this hot before.