Lead Lemmy Developer, Dessalines, denying the Tiananmen Square Massacre and praising the Uyghur Genocide

https://sh.itjust.works/post/8419342

Dessalines AKA “parentis_shotgun” on Reddit, is the main Lemmy dev, also the admin of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml.

Their post and discussions on Reddit (archive as the original post must have been removed):

https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

Please join the discussions for Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem:

https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

And the discussions for finding/creating alternative communities on other instances:

https://lemmy.world/post/16235541

What is a tankie?

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes or their allies. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

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    Strict prohibitions on foreign controlling interest in real estate, capital, and intellectual property, for starters.

    This is protectionism and it has literally nothing to do with communism. Those are two absolute different things that can coexist or not coexist.

    Same relates to your other points.

    Your rhetoric is eerily similar to protectionist points of Nazi Germany, a very non-communist state that was obsessed with domestic control and protecting domestic capitalist with the proclaimed idea of “capital belonging to all people of Germany”, as opposed to “evil Jewish cartels”.

    Simply trapping the capital inside the country speaks little of what gets to the workers. And if we talk communism, ALL of the capital is directly owned by the collective of workers. Which is not China.

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      This is protectionism and it has literally nothing to do with communism.

      It’s protection for domestic ownership of property.

      Your rhetoric is eerily similar to protectionist points of Nazi Germany

      It was similar to Communist protectionist points of the KDP.

      You’ve been pumped full of bad info, and at this point I don’t know what to tell you except to get outside whatever Western propaganda hot house you’ve found yourself in.

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        As I said, protectionism may coexist or not coexist with communism, as it can with any other economic system.

        If you’re serious about equating protectionism and communism, you should probably be happy with the way things were done in the Third Reich.

        You should seriously reconsider the terms you employ, and read the classics more thoroughly. Also, open the goddamn Wikipedia if you’re too lazy for that.

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          protectionism may coexist or not coexist with communism

          Only if you ignore the history of anti-colonialism that gave birth to communist movements in the third world.

          If you’re serious about equating protectionism and communism, you should probably be happy with the way things were done in the Third Reich.

          That’s utterly ahistorical. There was nothing protectionist about Nazi Germany.

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            No, I just state the fact that protectionism doesn’t mean communism and globalism doesn’t mean capitalism.

            They are different terms for a reason.

            There was everything protectionist about Nazi Germany, who seeked to give control of German industries to German capitalists.

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              protectionism doesn’t mean communism and globalism doesn’t mean capitalism

              Capitalism requires an economic frontier for continuous growth, which necessitates extraterritorial expansion. Communism requires home rule and self-sufficient domestic industry, which necessitates protectionism.

              They are different terms for a reason.

              One describes a broad philosophy and the other describes a tool of policy. Might as well say Plumber and Pipe are different terms for a reason.

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                Communism does not necessitate self-sufficiency, moreover, a switch to fully domestic production is detrimental to any economy. The reason modern economy is globalized is that it’s simply more efficient, and capitalist economies are all about efficiency, as it allows to extract more value. At the same time, many past socialist economies were forced to only partner with other socialist economies, which limited their options and hurt their economy.

                One of the key reasons communist classics called for a global revolution is to gain the critical mass of communism-aligned countries to minimize this effect and maximize globalization efforts. The communist endgame is one interconnected world without any nations to begin with, not to mention any protectionism.

                That’s all, like, economics 101.

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                    I don’t think you did read Marx, Engels, and Lenin.

                    Can’t say for Mao, did not read his works close enough.

                    But the communism classics would hardly disagree with you, aside from the fact you stray so so far from the original topic.