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    I have to know what the Detroit soccer team did to get so high on that list. Somebody here must know. Please!

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        Really? I know they have a bunch of porn bots, I don’t think I ever interacted with someone on there, just saw not posts in my federated feed. I never noticed anything pedoish, but of course I don’t click content warnings so I wouldn’t know, I’m not interested in NSFW stuff on fedi.

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    I visited a few out of mindless curiosity and ignorance. I have no idea wtf I read and now the FBI is after me…

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      Anything illegal posted on a remote server will bring legal trouble to you as a server admin the moment it federates onto your instance. Therefore I completely understand them defederating from instances with a high risk of illegal activity.

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          What…?

          Selective federation is a benefit. It’s by design. It’s helpful in precisely these circumstances. And as it’s open source, the users of the service can use the feature how they want. It’s entirely reasonable that instance admins use the feature as intended to protect against regional legal liability. What you’re doing is like using a canoe, and then complaining that there’s too much water in these here parts.

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      At least on Lemmy, defederating is also a way of banning all the instance’s users from your communities. If you’re constantly banning one instance’s users and their admins seem fine with it, there’s really no other way.

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        I wish I, an individual account, could defederate from instances, like some way to block all those instances’ users.

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      Because in order to block content, the user first has to see it. If I were an instance admin, I wouldn’t force my users to see any amount of N words and homophobic slurs, not even the once it takes to block it.

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    What is varishangout…net? Initially read it as yarishangout.net and wondered why a space for Toyota Yaris owners got defedded. Also wondering how stereophonic.space got defedded?

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    How bad are these that Hexbear didn’t even make the list? Drilling through on the clickable version here makes it clear that the #1, poa.st, has the same basic content as Hexbear, but I’m assuming it’s somehow way worse. Just imagine.

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      hexbear isn’t even malicious. hexbear is spicy at best. not nearly as bad as lemmygrad, which is outright repugnant in its overt hostility. hexbear users are at least CAPABLE of communicating, whereas in my experience lemmygrad users pull the animal farm squealer move and defecate on the floor before storming out.

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        Hexbear suffers from the nazi bar problem, they’re not ALL tankies, but they sure do hang out with a lot of them

        I just don’t have the time to sus out who’s who and it’s much easier (and less massive-shock-image-spamming) to use an instance that’s defederated with them

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        I’m on hexbear. It’s a good community. It’s leftist though so conservatives and libruls won’t like it. But you can have a good argument and find like minded people.

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          The thing is, you can ONLY have a conversation with extremely like minded people. If you are not tip-of-the-left authoritarian, you are called a filthy lib and shunned.

          Sadly it just suffers the same syndrome as that conservative sub on reddit: “Anyone who doesn’t agree with me on every important and semi important point is literally the same as my worst enemy and I will fill their inbox with insults”

          I disagreed with the way they often brigade posts and they said I was “indiscernible from the racist, fascist party” from my country. Like they went through the effort of looking up where I was from and the political parties there to find the most right wing one to name call and insult me with lol. That says a lot about the community culture, in my opinion.

          It also has heavy Russian apologist content. Like, I even understand that MLs love China and excuse everything they do, but Russia is literally an right wing oligarchy with no health care and crippled social benefits that is led by an extreme right wing authoritarian fascist. I get that they are China’s ally by the enemy-of-my-enemy principle, but that doesn’t mean they are automatically good.

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          It’s the kind of place you go when you are bored out of your mind, online and want to see some circus shit going on without being sprinkled in toxic dung

          It’s horrible but stomachable and you get to see very special people you didn’t know exist. A living cautionary tale of going too far

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            I don’t have that experience at all. But I’m not there to try and win any battles. Lots of true allies.

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              I mean they are literally Mao Zedong figures with rainbow clothes it’s fucking bizzare. I never expected to see gay Chinese communists and queer soviets hence for me it’s like a trip

              I only had similar feeling when seeing dark skinned Polish aryans neonazis, the clash of history is just too funny or at least it would be if it was a stand up comedy and they didn’t want to kill me on sight, just like the hexbears for that matter

              In any case as long as you pretend to be one of em it’s always super nice, cult like, sisterhood but they have cute tendency for wanting to kill you immediately after you reveal yourself

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          It may well be “leftist”, but it’s also maximum authoritarian. Hexbears love fascism like a raccoon loves trash. If you’re anything but a full-on Nazi, absolutely including being a genocide denier, you’ll be relentlessly attacked on there.

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            Just not true. There are a lot of anarchists on there. In fact a large portion of their emotes are dedicated to left unity.

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              Left unity is a lie perpetuated by tankies so we’ll be more compliant when they shove us against the wall.

              Edit:after looking though the comment history, this account is clearly a Hexbear Alt. 24 in 2 months the last burst was over a month ago, and the first dealing directly with Hexbear.

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                Utter nonsense, left unity is real. And yes, I have accounts on both, I didn’t realise that was a secret spy crime :)

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          Hexbear rules. 40 year old liberal tech nerds who grew up on American propaganda hate it because they hate change and congregations of young people.

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            I don’t hate change, I hate Putin apologism from a space that claims to be left wing.

            More to the point I hate brain dead takes like “voting is not harm reduction and if you don’t go 3rd party in 2024 you’re no better than a fascist”

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    Is this your overview? If so maybe you could decode some of the punycode in the domains

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    You thankfully appear to have not been exposed to a “proper” hexbear thread where all they can do to communicate is call you a shitlib for doing things like acknowledging genocide.

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      You mean like all the biden supporters on here defending his support for genocide?

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    #2 represent! Getting defederated is street cred. If crybabies don’t like you you’re doing something right.

    I don’t mess with fedi anymore though, besides dicking around on here. Socially I’m all about Nostr now, it’s the future of the non corpo social media, federated network architecture is simply too prone to abuse.

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        I think “#2 represent” is referring to their membership at freespeechextremist, so they are likely looking forward to wallowing in a festering cesspool of hatred.

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          Nah I leave that shit to the guys at the #1 spot on the list lol. I just say what I want. I’m actually not into being angry and hateful, but I’m also not into being told what I can and cannot say.

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              It’s not about what I want to say lol typical. Take a conversation about principle and imply that I want to shout slurs.

              You don’t have the right to dictate to me what I can say out loud, period.

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                Who implied you want to shout slurs? I’m asking about the principle. What are you wanting to say that other instances are stopping you from saying? What is anyone even dictating that you cannot say out loud?

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                  “On principle what specific words do you want to say” lol yeah OK. You need to go understand what “principle” means, by definition it ignores specific circumstances.

                  When what I can say is subject to someone else’s dictat, de facto they have power over me. The interesting thing about that is that the kind of people that seek that out aren’t the kind of people who wield it wisely or fairly. I avoid giving others power over me, I can’t always prevent it, but I avoid it where I can. That’s the principle we are talking about, whether I want to give someone that power, not whether I agree with them on what words should be said. And that’s what this whole speech shit is about, not words, it’s about power. Generally I would agree with those people on what words should not be said, what I don’t agree with is giving them the power to tell me or other people that we can’t say them. I used to do the compromise thing, but those people inevitably overreach and begin to try to control what ideas are allowed to be discussed, because again, it’s about power and they’re power hungry subhuman scum who just want to dominate others.

                  No matter where you go on fedi, it’s one type of toxic or another. Either it’s people shouting the n word, or it’s people sharing drawings (at best) of little kids, or it’s power hungry subhuman scum who just want to dominate others. It’s an architectural problem endemic to the federated network architecture. So I prefer an architecture with less discoverability but which gives the user the power to censor their own feed how they see fit. There’s no real reach on either, but at least people can have their echo chambers and nobody can lean on the architecture to silence the people they don’t like.

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        That’s actually nor possible because there’s no global feed. Your network is what you make of it. I’m not a fan of voat types so I don’t interact with them online all that often.

        It’s interesting, the people that tell you that they’re in the majority somehow also believe that online spaces that are left for open discussion don’t wind up the way they want them to, almost as if they’re a minority.

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          Or they’re just not interested in wading through far-right extremists for 3 shitty memes.

          After all, if your theory about “open spaces turn into Nazis and pedos because most people are secretly Nazis and pedos” were actually true, those sites would be the biggest sites in the world, not tiny little bubbles that last 6 months.