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        If you’re going to equate the dead children in Gaza with Hamas, you might as well say this lady “earned” it on account of the policies of the Israeli far right.

        There’s no such thing as “earning” the mass murder of civilians.

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            Hamas has kept power for almost two decades without an election, of which over 50% of the population of Gaza was too young to vote in, on account of them not being born.

            Innocent people are dying because Israel propped up the terrorist Hamas to prevent a real, peaceful government from forming and bringing forward a two country solution.

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              And no one cared about the terrorist regime - especially those who don’t have to live under Hamas and yell “Free Palestine”. Everyone liked Hamas well enough as long as they kill some jews once in a while.

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                I don’t know man. Everyone in my family that is politically active dislikes Fatah, especially Abbas, but they LOATHE Hamas. There are palestinian circles that curse Hamas for bringing about a second Naqba. It’s not as black and white as it appears.

                It’s just that Gaza is a special case. It’s poor and miserable, hosting plenty fertile ground for extremist indoctrination. Have you ever tried arguing with someone from such a background about means of liberation and their justification? That’s a mighty complicated discussion.

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                    So you’re saying that the Israeli populace is responsible for the systematic oppression of the Palestinian people? I’m not sure I’d go that far myself, but I respect your opinion.

                    At the end of the day, Hamas did an awful thing at the beginning of this month, but guerilla warfare has no rules. When you’re fighting against USA-lite with rocks and Iranian cast-offs, you don’t get to fight fair. I don’t think they should’ve committed the specific attack that they did, but attacks of opportunity are all they have left to fight the Apartheid state next door.

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                    people share consequences with their government regardless of whether it’s a democracy or whether they personally support said government.

                    So Hamas is justified in killing Israeli citizens just as the IDF is justified in killing Gazan citizens?

                    Weird watching you twist your brain into knots to find ways to only condemn one side while praising the other.

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        Hamas earned this, not the rest of the innocent Palestinians who never had a choice on who represented them. The innocent Israeli citizens didn’t earn this either.

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          They probably should have left long ago when the Egyptian border was open for anyone who wanted to leave.

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              “Long ago.”

              It was closed because IDF attacked a tunnel under the wall near the crossing. It was open before then and it has been reopened since. Unfortunately, Egypt only lets out ~300/day so it’s probably unlikely that refugees are lucky enough to leave at present. Egypt cares more about not destabilizing themselves like other neighboring countries did than they do about Palestinian refugees.