“What’s happening in Gaza is not genocide. We reject that,” Biden said at a Jewish American Heritage Month event at the White House.

I can’t tell if he’s pandering or trying to lose the election

    • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 months ago

      It’s more like he knows liberals and young people have to vote for him or they’ll get a fascist instead.

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        I’m fairly sure many people will just not go to the polls. I think he’s banking on a very risky and stupid idea here.

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          There are many people under the age of 25 who do not fully understand what happened on January 6. They are being inundated with news of genocide and how Biden is directly responsible. They do not fully understand what the first Trump presidency was. Only politics junkies seem to understand the threat of project 2025 and plan 47.

          We have an entire generation who hate Biden and didn’t see the threat of Trump.

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            Assuming that’s correct; instead of pretending they’ll somehow magically all start understanding the “Trump threat” in the next 6 months, maybe Biden and the Dems should start actually giving them what they want. It’s not even a big ask. Just don’t do genocide. And definitely don’t do genocide and then say it’s not actual genocide. No one gives a fuck what you call it. Anyone with a conscience can see it’s wrong.

            Anything short of giving young people whatever it takes to get them to show up for Biden is basically supporting Trump for president.

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        True up to a point. Youth at least are very fickle and very demoralized already with the lack of opportunities to be financially screwed.

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        Kinda looks like they’re getting a fascist either way - it’s kinda hard to make the case that somebody who supports with gifts of weapons and ammo a violent genocidal fascist movement activelly murdering civilians, including tens of thousands of childrens (some of which activelly targetted by snipers and using precision bombs) and activelly targetting medical personnel and journalists, isn’t himself a genocidal fascist, no matter what else he says: after all, even Hitler had a good side (he liked dogs) but that didn’t make him any less a genocidal fascist.

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        They’ll get a hard core fascist with Trump. With Biden they’ll get a fascist-lite. None of the offensive parts of fascism. Just the corruption and special interests dictating policy parts.

        The US administration is so corrupt that it is hard to get anything useful done. Even if it is something that has been obvious for decades.

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      More like he wants average middle aged swing state voters to vote for him, since those are the only people that really matter and they are typically pro Israel.

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        Okay but seriously who’s out there, wringing their hands, trying to figure out if they’ll vote Trump or Biden? No one. If you’re voting for Trump, there is absolutely nothing Biden (or Trump for that matter) could do to change your mind. All those centrist neolibs in the swing states are going to vote for Biden regardless, because there’s no one else for them to vote for. The true “undecided voters” are undecided between showing up and just not showing up. And shit like this just pushes them closer to the not showing up position. Every time Biden panders to his already locked in centrist base, instead of trying to get progressives to show up for him, it should be considered a willful attempt to get Trump elected.

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          It seems like the country is totally polarised because the most extreme people shout the loudest.

          People who are undecided don’t make memes or aggressive twitter posts about how undecided they are etc.

          And while the GOP establishment are fully on Trumps side there is a sizeable contingent of people who are usually republicans that are put off by trumps bullshit, but still don’t really want to vote for a “lib” like Biden either. And if he “supported hamas terorrists” that very well could be more than enough to put them off.

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            I’ll look myself, but any chance you’ve found any research with numbers for these groups? Are there more progressives and young people deciding between show up or not show up, or more centrists deciding between Biden and Trump?