• deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    Queen Elizabeth slut shaming her granddaughter in law:

    In the monarch’s view, it was not appropriate for a divorcée getting remarried in church to look quite so flamboyantly virginal

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      “Flamboyantly Virginal” is my new band name.

      In all seriousness, what a dumb thing to get worked up about in the first place and what a mean and insulting comment to make.

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        To be fair, I don’t think her views are all that important. Especially when she was alive. But at least she’s rotting now. So that’s good.

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        Flamboyantly Virginal

        I didn’t know the Queen could roast Reddit users so hard.

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    Well, her great great grandmother started the trend of white wedding dresses. For whatever that’s worth.

    Would that make her the leading expert when she was alive? I don’t care.

    Does it matter what the colour of the dress is? Only if you care about repressive social standards.

    I want to see colourful wedding dresses, hell a black one would be awesome, especially if the guy was the one wearing it and the woman was in a tux.

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    Not sure why this was posted here. It’s not surprising an elderly lady had that opinion.

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        First wedding dresses are traditionally white. After that they aren’t. She wasn’t wrong but standards have moved on without her.

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          My frighteningly virginal grandmother was married in 1948 in a pink skirt suit. If it was normal to wear white at that point for any one but the elite, she would have done so. This “white wedding” bullshit is a relatively new way of shaming women.

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          No, she’s wrong period. The color of wedding dresses has a misogynist history. Traditional is a bit tinged here. Who the fuck cares what dress color some person wears? In this case it was a racist misogynist with a lot of power and sway.

          I’ve a great many folks in my time have second weddings there are lots of white dresses. The only people who give a shit about that deserve the dust bin of history and when mentioned; mentioned as farce.

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    Journalism so important!

    Also journalism:

    Old bitch say mean things about a dress!

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      It wasn’t racism (this time), just an antiquated and sexist attitude towards who should get to wear white wedding dresses (Megan is a divorcée).

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        There’s definitely a racist subtext:

        1. Imagine the Queen criticizing Kate for being “flamboyant.” This word echoes negative racist stereotypes disseminated by white culture of how Black women act and dress. Now to be clear there is nothing flamboyant about this dress and when compared with Kate both dresses are large and grandiose. It’s not just that she’s not “virginal” it’s the “in your face”-ness about it that the Queen has commented on. What did Megan do differently than any other Royal bride on her wedding day to stand out except be black?
        2. it is possible that the dress appears to be whiter because Megan’s skin is darker, which is also subtly racist. Black women need to be relegated to a different shade of white when they’re divorced now? Come on.
        3. Camilla the divorcee wore white on her wedding day to Divorced Charles the 3rd. She just had an ugly - and I might say quite flamboyant - overcoat over it.
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          1. I’m not seeing that this is the case here. Wearing white wedding dresses is traditionally only for “virgins”. The Queen was the head of the Church of England. It might even be unusual for a 90-year-old head of the church, not to object to something like this.
          2. I think this is a stretch, and assuming rather a lot about someone you don’t know
          3. The queen did object to Camilla wearing a white dress when she married Charles
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      More misogynist for this specific angle, but I’m sure there’s a fair bit of misogynoir intersectionality there

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    If you take the Hex-Code for pure white (FFFFFF) and add the D in the back ((FFFFFD), it will change from White to a slightly yellow tint, it’ll go more yellow with every D you add. So… the queen had a point.

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      If only it were about that and not about misogynistic views relating to women’s virginity.

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      Yeah, because that’s what the queen was referring to when she made that off handed, old misogynistic, probably also racist undertoned remark.

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      Many people see a violet/blue shade as more white. There are some chemicals that reflect ultraviolet light for this effect.

      The point is, it looks cheap. Maybe that’s what she meant. It’s the same with chalk white teeth. They are also weird. There is a natural white like “angel white” that is often used. It’s more yellowish and not that reflective.

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        Seriously? Are you really trying to find an acceptable reason for such a statement? Do you really think she looks cheap?

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          You know posting a harmless remark by someone which in my opinion is not worth to be published is the core of the business of the yellow press.

          We are talking about taste here. And some people have opinions. I just tried to reflect about this opinion.

          Otherwise I don’t really care how the bride looks like.