A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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    Is the PA going to stop israel doing Genocide? Were you doing it? Was America doing it?

    … is fucking Hamas doing it right now? Because from what I see, Israel is closer to completing their genocide than they have been in my lifetime. Sure as fuck doesn’t look like they’ve STOPPED anything, but rather poured gasoline on the fire.

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      Israel is further from completing their Genocide than they have ever been. They used to be able to just slowly take over land with full international support. Israel is now the pariah of the world and the Abraham accords are gone. Hamas has taken off the mask and shown israel as the Nazis they are.

      but rather poured gasoline on the fire.

      TIL fighting against the fire = pouring gasoline on it.

      People keep claiming that what Hamas did will lead to nothing for the Palestinians. The only thing we can be certain of is that not fighting back will have ensured they burned to death slowly. We’re currently seeing mass protests on college campuses, is that because people are really mad israel is doing a Genocide in the West Bank right now too?

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        People keep claiming that what Hamas did will lead to nothing for the Palestinians. The only thing we can be certain of is that not fighting back will have ensured they burned to death slowly.

        The only thing we can be certain of is that Hamas’s attack has led to Israel genociding some 30,000 Palestinians. The fuck makes you think killing a bunch of civilians is in any way fighting for any cause other than extending the conflict? But neither Hamas nor you care about that; only drum-beating for Islamofascism using Palestinian independence as a shield for that shitfuckery. Fucking insane.

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          7 months ago

          Israel is further from completing their Genocide than they have ever been. They used to be able to just slowly take over land with full international support. Israel is now the pariah of the world and the Abraham accords are gone. Hamas has taken off the mask and shown israel as the Nazis they are.

          Tell me how is the West Bank doing right now? They should just not fight back and slowly get Genocided so you don’t get mad about it right? Imagine if they fought back that would be so stupid. Then it would be their own fault if israel Genocided them!

          This victim blaming is truly astounding.

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            “The only thing we can be certain of is [thing that is by no means certain]; therefore the attack was justified! Legitimate Resistance™!”

            “The only thing we can be certain of is [THING THAT HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY HAPPENED]; killing a bunch of civilians did nothing but lead to [THING THAT HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY HAPPENED]”

            But anything to play apologist for the murder of civilians, huh?

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              Yeah you can just deny israel that israel is annexing the West Bank.

              Really convenient to pretend it doesn’t exist because it debunks all your arguments.

              It does exist by the way.

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                How is the West Bank relevant? How does the West Bank debunk or even address ANY of my arguments?

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                  It debunks every single argument of people pretending that peaceful negotiation with israel is possible.

                  Israel are Nazis. Not in the figurative but a very literal sense.

                  They want to expand their Lebensraum and will ethnically cleanse people living on land they want

                  They want to create an Ethnostate for only their group of people

                  What you are saying about Palestinians is like saying “the Jews should just have negotiated with the Nazis”. They tried and ya know what? Nazis gonna Nazi.