• TWeaK@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Yes it is? An infrastructure project like that will help modernise the region.

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      1 year ago

      It’s not an infrastructure project, it’s a debt trap and power projection tool through bribery of corrupt leaders willing to sell out their countries.

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        1 year ago

        I’ve apparently been living under a rock and have no idea what this initiative is about, care to share some quick summary?

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          Basically China is building roads and rail across from China, through India and into the Middle East. Afghanistan also includes something about getting copper from there to send back to China, I imagine other countries will have resources China is after as well.

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        1 year ago

        What makes you say the countries it goes through are going to be in debt because of it?

        My understanding is that they won’t be, however they will be practically giving away natural resources (eg copper for Afghanistan).

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          Not all debt can be satisfied with money. A debt that is being paid, whether in money, natural resources, or the blood sweat tears and labor of your countrymen is still a debt.

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            You’re not really making sense. “A debt paid,… is still a debt that has to be paid”? If the debt is paid, it’s already been paid.

            Assuming Afghanistan owes China for the infrastructure, then that debt would be paid by giving them copper. Bought and paid for. So how are they saddled with debt? Where’s the trap?

            Obviously the deal will be a lot more complex, it might not be a great deal long term in some respects and I’m sure there’ll be a measure of corruption (there almost always is, everywhere), but at the end of the day Afghanistan is getting infrastructure it couldn’t build on its own and China is getting resources it otherwise wouldn’t have access to.

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              Because the copper will be worth way more in the long run than the tech it’s funding. Plus China is notorious for putting their own people in charge of mining operations who are abusive to locals.

              I’m sure it’ll be a little more complex, but it doesn’t have to be. If China can secure cheap raw materials it helps to ensure that they can make things cheaper than anyone else.

              https://www.statista.com/statistics/744071/manufacturing-labor-costs-per-hour-china-vietnam-mexico/

              That link shows how China’s unskilled labor is now more expensive than a lot of their competitors. They need a new edge to stay relevant. The raw materials in Afghanistan is just one of many ways they are attempting to stay competitive.

              You’re right about my mis-type on the last thing I’m headed there to fix it. Thanks for pointing that out.

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                Yeah I’m sure China are doing it for their own advantage, but Afghanistan are still getting infrastructure they wouldn’t have had - in particular the route is going through the mountains, where there are no easy roads currently. There are significant benefits for thw other countries involved in the scheme, too.

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                  Are you ok? Do you smell toast or something? If you don’t even have a basic understanding of how life works, never mind, the CCP. I can’t help you.

                  Are you implying that China is doing it out of the goodness of their little hearts? Are you suggesting that the CCP signed off on a project like this because they are such nice guys?

                  I bet you believed your mom when she said you were special too. Get the fuck out of here. Hehehehehehehe

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                    Are you ok? Suddenly coming unravelled like that could be a sign of dimentia.