With this decree I can imagine a percentage of the people in those awful jails are completely innocent and fucked.
I’m from El Salvador and this is gonna bite them in the ass. Once all the gangs are gone, you think all those hired cops are gonna accept unemployment and the president will just give up power? Lol. Those cops and these laws will soon be turned on political opponents, protesters and undesirables. Just like in the Philippines. I’m happy they hurt the gangs, but I guarantee they also destroyed innocent lives while doing it, and I guarantee this decree is gonna end up bad.
Exactly. It’s not working to put them all in jail, they just grow back. When they get adequate alternatives it’ll slow down eventually, but there’s no money in that, right?!
Elect me first and I’ll come up with some. But seriously, I get it, but it sucks, and it just reminds me of where we were back in the 80s and early 90s with the civil war that led to all the gangs. Lots of innocent people got thrown to the wolves then too in the name of safety.
I wonder what happens if the decree is ever pulled, do the cops who are no longer needed go unemployed and end up forming the new street gangs? Cause that’s how we got here now, when the war ended we had a bunch of guerrilla with PTSD and no future in a peaceful country, so they turned to banditry.
They could come up with some sort of plan to transition them to other jobs like public works or other state-operated services. At least there would be a lawful path for the honest people to follow.
There’s more to this than meets the eye, not everything is black and white.
Mafia helped Italian families because communities were being targeted unfairly by cops. Yakuza were a major part of the restoration of Japan.
Even in Mexico, military and cops realized they were getting fucked formed cartels, which are literally gangs.
Gangs are the result of a failure of government and society. Call them what you will, but painting it like gangs are evil is failing to recognize the nuance.
MS13 started in Los Angeles. The people involved in that were either sent to prison or deported back to El Salvador. These ones that were deported are the ones that fucked everything up. The government didn’t know what to do so they did what they thought was correct. You also have to remember that this is AFTER AN EXTREMELY RECENT CIVIL WAR so the government didn’t want to intervene a ton. This was how MS started making their own checkpoints, their own safe cities and police had to pay THEM to travel around the cities. I don’t think any small government could be equipped to handle what MS did.
Good.
Gangbangers are all scumbags.
With this decree I can imagine a percentage of the people in those awful jails are completely innocent and fucked.
I’m from El Salvador and this is gonna bite them in the ass. Once all the gangs are gone, you think all those hired cops are gonna accept unemployment and the president will just give up power? Lol. Those cops and these laws will soon be turned on political opponents, protesters and undesirables. Just like in the Philippines. I’m happy they hurt the gangs, but I guarantee they also destroyed innocent lives while doing it, and I guarantee this decree is gonna end up bad.
Exactly. It’s not working to put them all in jail, they just grow back. When they get adequate alternatives it’ll slow down eventually, but there’s no money in that, right?!
Unfortunately, punishing innocent people is a price El Salvadorians have to pay for enabling gangbangers for so long.
The only alternative is that the gangbanging gets to continue, and get worse. Unless you can think of some better solution?
Elect me first and I’ll come up with some. But seriously, I get it, but it sucks, and it just reminds me of where we were back in the 80s and early 90s with the civil war that led to all the gangs. Lots of innocent people got thrown to the wolves then too in the name of safety.
I wonder what happens if the decree is ever pulled, do the cops who are no longer needed go unemployed and end up forming the new street gangs? Cause that’s how we got here now, when the war ended we had a bunch of guerrilla with PTSD and no future in a peaceful country, so they turned to banditry.
They could come up with some sort of plan to transition them to other jobs like public works or other state-operated services. At least there would be a lawful path for the honest people to follow.
El Salvador barely has any public services to begin with. Installing some to keep kids off gangs etc would be nice but they don’t have the money
There’s more to this than meets the eye, not everything is black and white.
Mafia helped Italian families because communities were being targeted unfairly by cops. Yakuza were a major part of the restoration of Japan.
Even in Mexico, military and cops realized they were getting fucked formed cartels, which are literally gangs.
Gangs are the result of a failure of government and society. Call them what you will, but painting it like gangs are evil is failing to recognize the nuance.
MS13 started in Los Angeles. The people involved in that were either sent to prison or deported back to El Salvador. These ones that were deported are the ones that fucked everything up. The government didn’t know what to do so they did what they thought was correct. You also have to remember that this is AFTER AN EXTREMELY RECENT CIVIL WAR so the government didn’t want to intervene a ton. This was how MS started making their own checkpoints, their own safe cities and police had to pay THEM to travel around the cities. I don’t think any small government could be equipped to handle what MS did.
Don’t see any potential issues with no due process?
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