• lloram239@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    I think that in it’s core, it’s a fight for freedom.

    You must have drunken too much of the Hamas Cool-Aid.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter#Analysis

    The original, 1988 version of the charter emphasize four main themes: [18]

    • Destroying Israel and establishing an Islamic theocracy in Palestine is essential;[18]
    • Unrestrained jihad is necessary to achieve this;[18]
    • Negotiated resolutions of Jewish and Palestinian claims to the land are unacceptable;[18]
    • Historical anti-semitic tropes that reinforce the goals.[18]

    The Covenant proclaims that Israel will exist until Islam obliterates it, and jihad against Jews is required until Judgement Day. Compromise over the land is forbidden. The documents promote holy war as divinely ordained, reject political solutions, and call for instilling these views in children.[18]

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      1 year ago

      Almost all freedom movements have extremists. The existence of extremists doesn’t justify oppressing innocent civilians. Focusing on Hamas is important, sure. But what’s a LOT more important is how Israel is (and has been) treating Palestinians. A complete disregard and lack of accountability for Israel’s actions while simultaneously asking the oppressed to condemn Hamas sounds a bit too insane to me.

      There’s a reason why pro-palestine protestors do not talk about Hamas: they don’t support Hamas. But talking about Hamas takes the attention away from the crap that Israel has been putting Gaza through for more than a decade. Sure, both need to be heard. But right now, what’s not being done (and in fact, actively ignored) is talking about Israel’s actions: making it seem like a response to Hamas’ recent attacks even though it’s been happening for so long.

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        1 year ago

        Hamas is not a random group of extremist, Hamas is the government that Gazans voted into power back in 2006.

        And as always: If you have a better way to handle this, let us know. Everybody keeps complaining about Israel, ignores all the war crimes Hamas committed and provides no alternatives. Time machines don’t exists, so any “but Israel in the past blabla…” is rather useless.

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          I mean, it’s a religious conflict. There’s not going to be any satisfactory solution for both parties really. It’s still absolutely horrible that they resort to violence over this, both the israeli government and hamas are to blame for this, and as always, the ones caught in the crossfire are innocent civilians. However, if residents of Gaza were allowed to leave, most would flee anyway, despite it (possibly) being their land. Preventing that is something Israel is certainly to be blamed for. Of course, one can make an argument about terrorists escaping along with them, but yeah.

          Also, just because you can’t change history doesn’t mean that you ignore it, but anyway.