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    Group A is angry. It shoots missles and kills innocent civilians. Group B states “This will not stand! We must defeat group A and put an end to their killing of innocent civilians!” Group B then shoots missles, but instead of just killing group A, they kill a bunch more innocent civilians. On that last group of civilians, who is to blame for their death? In abstract it should be the ones shooting the missles.

    You might be tempted to say it was group A’s fault for shooting the first batch of missles, thinking I am referring to Hamas. That is why I made up the (hopefully) hypothetical scenario that group A is Israel and group B is Iran. All I want to get across is those that shoot missles and kill innocents REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES are to blame for the death they cause.

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      1 year ago

      Group B is unrelated so the whole thing is unrelated.

      I’m not proposing to remove all blame from Israel. But its actions are within adequate frame, and it can be investigated and held accountable. This never applies to Palestinians, they won’t be prosecuted and will proceed with terrorism if not stopped.

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        Group B fired missles that killed innocent civilians in both scenarios. Proposing they are unrelated removed all blame from them.

        Also, when was the last time any resolution at the UN security council has passed and held Israel accountable? Seems like the whole region has avoided any formal accountability, both Hamas and Israel.

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          Whatever the UN did wrong, it doesn’t mean Israel can be treated like terrorists.

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              1 year ago

              This is not what’s happening.

              All the suffering of Palestinians are the result of electing hamas and its actions.

              Hamas can stop the suffering immediately by surrendering and releasing hostages.

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                This is not what’s happening.

                All the suffering of the Israelis are the result of electing Likud and its actions.

                Likud can stop the suffering immediately by surrendering and returning the stolen land.

                In what world would either of those things happen?