Noya Dan, who had autism, was taken along with her grandmother Carmela on October 7.

The 12-year-old Israeli girl whose “Harry Potter”-inspired photo went viral after she was kidnapped by Hamas has been found dead alongside her grandmother in Gaza.

  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1518·
    1 year ago

    Someone ordered the bombing. They’re to blame. Should we go back to the Nakba, the Balfour Declaration and the British mandate? Or are we aiming for the Garden of Eden and original sin? Let’s take the philosophical route and delve into the origins of human nature. Maybe she’s still alive in another universe. The inability for some to see the context of history and the cause and effect that occurs limits my hope for humanity. We have the ability to seek and learn knowledge, but choose not to, based on some indoctrinated belief system that was neither designed or chosen by the vast majority. God works in mysterious ways.

    • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
      1917·
      1 year ago

      Hamas started the war and hid in cities, trying to make sure enough civilians were around that Israel had trouble retaliating after they launched their rockets at civilians. They’re genocidal terrorists who are religious fanatics. I’m gonna blame them for their hostage dying. If you aren’t, that’s a you problem.

        • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
          1313·
          1 year ago

          You can either insist there’s been a consistent conflict since 1948, which was started by the Arabs, or you can mark the beginning of the current conflict at the massive terrorism attack by Hamas this year. Take your pick.

          • P1r4nha@feddit.deEnglish
            85·
            1 year ago

            But acting like Israel’s carpet bombing of Gaza is like a force of nature is weird as well, no? The way you say it, it sounds like Hamas took the hostages into the path of a Hurricane. Was it so clear to everyone that Israel wouldn’t give a shit about the hostages and would be bombing Gaza indiscriminately?

            • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
              58·
              1 year ago

              If Israel was carpet bombing Gaza, we would have a million dead civilians now. I don’t know why y’all need to make shit up.

              • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.ccEnglish
                76·
                1 year ago

                There’s more than 3.5k palestine death caused by israeli indiscriminately bombing. Having less than what you expect doesn’t make them any hero

                • kurwa@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  94·
                  1 year ago

                  I love how no one in this thread cares about all the Palestinian children that died in those bombings, and probably still more are dying. None of these killings are justified, it’s all horrible. The only thing we should be considering is peace, but I see barely any of you doing that. (If it wasn’t obvious, I’m not directing this message towards you, just all of the down voting losers)

                  • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
                    26·
                    1 year ago

                    I do care about both the Palestinian and Israeli victims of Hamas’s actions. I’m just blaming the party responsible.

                • avater@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  64·
                  1 year ago

                  Why are you guys never coming up with a source that shows the opposite? Who started this war in your opinion? Was it Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Sudan? Because they sure as shit startet a war one day after Israel was declared a state in this region.

                  On 14 May 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared “the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel.”[167][168] The only reference in the text of the Declaration to the borders of the new state is the use of the term Eretz-Israel (“Land of Israel”).[169] The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq—entered into parts of what had been British Mandatory Palestine, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War;[170][171][172] contingents from Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Sudan joined the war.

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

                  And this pretty much looks like Israel likely did not start this war or this conflict and had to fight for their existence from day one. I’m not saying that everything they’re doing is acceptable or that they are not fueling this war too, but I pretty much understand that they are in a life or death situation since from the very beginning.

                  And to all possible Downvoters: instead of just downvoting me, please try to explain the issues with my conclusion or come up with some other sources if I missed something.

                  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    32·
                    1 year ago

                    Try rereading history from a non-western perspective so you can put yourself in a Palestinian’s shoes. As Israel was established, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled against their will. Villages were massacred and burned. Source. Why does it matter who started the war? Israel, as it was established, should have never happened the way it did. A minority population should never be given more land than the majority. Jews could have been given land in Palestine and coexisted, but the west and the UN were hellbent on creating a state of Israel.