Go read the definition of war again. It doesn’t require a functioning state with a standing army. It doesn’t mention anything about civilian deaths. It’s literally just 2 sides engaged in an armed conflict. Want to argue about the definition of war? Write to Merriam Webster. I don’t care

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/war

Ugh man, sure, if you want to go that far, Jews who armed themselves and fought against Nazis were in a war. Whatever. But in war, civilians are killed.

“Between 300,000–600,000 German civilians and over 200,000 Japanese civilians were killed by allied bombing during the Second World War, most as a result of raids intentionally targeted against civilians themselves.” Source: https://academic.oup.com/book/9859/chapter-abstract/157134577?redirectedFrom=fulltext

“Some 75 million people died in World War II, including about 20 million military personnel and 40 million civilians” Source : https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hccc-worldhistory2/chapter/casualties-of-world-war-ii/

Please recognize that you are trying to twist the definition of war here, not me.

No. Hamas is an organized armed group, fighting Israel, another organized armed group. You are the one trying to twist the definition of war. It’s very clear cut

It’s really just a bunch of leftists who think that any side that is disadvantaged (see Hamas in this scenario) deserves their undying support. It’s pretty whack, especially when it means supporting literal terrorists

War definition: a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state

Exactly. And why would they end the war without getting everything they demand from the other side? They aren’t losing, Hamas is losing. People don’t seem to understand the concept of leverage in negotiations. If Hamas wants to end the war, they need to completely surrender and return all the hostages

I asked hasn’t Lebanon been firing rockets at Israel for a while - you said Israel invades their airspace (implying that firing rockets into Israel was justified)

By your logic though, Taiwan should be launching rockets into China because China regularly violates their airspace. It’s just not how normal countries interact with each other man, these people are psychos. Both sides

So not really “invading random countries” like the person I responded to said, right? They’ve been fighting

Doesn’t Lebanon shoot rockets at Israel? Like pretty frequently?

Monsanto is now fully owned by Bayer. Who are also evil

What’s the end goal here?

they seek a declaration from the court that defendants are violating their duty under customary international law

Here’s the nasty little secret about “international law” that people don’t seem to understand. The most powerful countries don’t have to abide by it. There are no mechanisms for enforcement. There aren’t world police who have international jurisdiction, there aren’t world courts that have international subpoena power. So the countries at the top can enforce it when it’s in their interest, and ignore it when it’s not. Them the rules of an anarchical system, “rules for thee not for me”

But but people here told me they’re just freedom fighters!

Yeah it’s all bundled together. Before the internet, there were established authorities on certain matters. Now any idiot can go on twitter and claim to be a MD and fool a bunch of other idiots into thinking vaccines are deadly and used for brainwashing.

Like I said before, it’s the complete erosion of actual Truth

Yeah it can even be less sinister. The dumbest people can all hear someone of perceived authority (like someone on Rogan for example) who says “there’s actually no proof the world is round” and the idiots can be like “I knew it! I was right all along!” And they’ll never accept anything else because they were “proven right” that one time

It’s the complete degradation of (capital T) Truth

Turns out, people are just stupid and the more information access you give them the more they can reinforce their stupidity with other idiots’ opinions

I mean it went from 53% for armed struggle before to 63% after… it was only after they got their ass whooped that they all of sudden wanted peaceful negotiations and the armed struggle demographic went down

And support for Hamas went from 22% up to 43%, after the attack. Thank you for proving my point further

Edit: how the fuck did this get downvoted hahahaha can you people not read simple charts? Support for Hamas WENT UP AFTER OCT 7 - y’all for real stupid af lol

Scary shit.

And then their popularity went UP after Oct 7. So I’m guessing those protestors were really just upset that Hamas wasn’t being violent enough

I’m a small guy, I don’t go pick fights with giant MMA dudes, because I’m not an idiot. Hamas seems to not be so smart, and are willing to sacrifice all of their fellow countrymen to make a point. I don’t feel bad for them whatsoever, especially when 75% of them support brutal terrorist attacks

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/#:~:text=JERUSALEM%2C Dec 13 (Reuters),respected Palestinian polling institute found.