Mullenweg just took over AFC so that everyone who installed the non-pro version will now have his version instead. It’s part of this whole crazy drama in the WordPress ecosystem right now. It’s just funny to see anyone saying anything else about Mullenweg/ WordPress at the moment.
I think I just misunderstood what you were referencing with the podcast. It just seemed like a general puff piece from before the drama based on the description and what I listened to of the clip.