How is that a better idea than just asking people to show a basic level of human respect and courtesy? Are you really so thin-skinned, that you’re put out by a sign asking people not to be creeps?
Because the people feeling others up in public are few, but the issue is presented like its the majority.
Sexism against men has been increasing so much, that people dont even question it now. They see something and just assume it must be true. Like men are responsible for 91% of all violent crime. Sounds awful right? I mean, 91%. Thats huge! But then you actually look at it, and that 91% is done by less than 1% of the male population. But for some reason, “men” need to do better. The implication being that this violence is done to women. Which it is… 10% of the time. Men are most likely to be the victims of violent crime at a whopping 81%. In fact, another common belief is that women cant walk the streets at night. They often say things like “If I was a man, Id go for a walk at night and not be afraid.” Which is pretty fucking stupid when you look at the stats. In fact, as it currently stands, women are far safer walking alone at night than they are when they got home. Because 90% of the time, the violence they suffer is from men they live with. Fathers, brothers, uncles, husbands, boyfriends, etc.
You dont need to ask the general public not be creeps. Because the majority of people are not creeps. I used to get felt up by women all the time while working as a glass collector in an upmarket club. It wasnt even close to being the majority of the women, but it was some of them. Should there be signs telling ALL the woman to get their hands off the 18 year old picking up glasses? If youre the type of person who grabs at people, chances are, youre the type of person who doesnt care about being nice and not creepy. So why bother with the sign? Just so you can claim some moral superiority over a group of people that are perceived to be creeps? And thus, the reason for the pushback unveils itself. Its not about being against the message, its about being against the virtue signal and the constantly spread fiction that men are all creeps and women are all victims.
But there sure as fuck is in the comment section, isnt there? Because all the cave brained cunts in the world just automatically assume. The only thing Im telling about my self in that comment, is exactly what it said. The fact you disagree, is you telling on your self, you sexist piece of shit.
Never said “Men are the real victims” or had a pity party, and you saying it doesnt make it so. Maybe if you could read, and maybe if you were a fucking prick, youd see what I saying instead of trying to twist the truth so that you dont have to deal with the fact that youre a piece of shit cock womble, spewing sexist trash in the hope some girl sees you as “Not like the other guys”.
Why does this bother you so much if the sign isn’t about you?
No one said it was, you decided it was. The sign doesn’t mention gender, and further it’s about taking photos, not touching people.
I’m really sorry anyone felt entitled to put their hands on your body without your consent. That really sucks. They absolutely should put up signs reminding people to keep their hands to themselves at your old job.
I’m guessing the old bats thought they could get away with it because it was wink wink ok with the culture of the place. If people are being touched, the place should make it clear that’s not tolerated and then act on it when you report it. The signs might not stop the pervs but maybe they would signal to the 18 year old that your boss would agree that that’s never ok, and you should report it and there should be consequences.
Well luckily conventions kick out creeps and permanent ban repeat offenders. So I guess instead of punishing cosplayers, separating assholes is the real solution.
I’m dressed as a background character from the third episode of… uh… Excel Saga.
What is your problem with requiring convention patrons to respect others? Honestly, there shouldn’t even have to be a rule for it, but any group of nerds is gonna have a That Guy.
But patrons do respect each other. The creeps get kicked out pretty quick.
Provided that you have evidence for their “creepy” behaviour right & not based on He said, She said right ?
In 1972, a man named Scott Shaw went to the World Science Fiction Convention dressed in a bathing suit and at least one full jar of chunky peanut butter. Bits of peanut butter kept falling off and people kept stepping on them. On 1970s hotel carpet. To this day, 53 years later, no matter which country hosts, Worldcon prohibits the use of peanut butter as any part of a costume. Rules exist for a reason.
The creeps get kicked out pretty quick.
Now they do. Because there are rules.
I can think of a convention off the top of my head where at least one creep wrote an entire treatise on groping women at cons. This creep was welcome and celebrated at conventions for decades, until he died in 1992 of AIDS he contracted from a blood transfusion. He was the guest of honor at Worldcon in 1955.
Rules exist for a reason. Sometimes That Guy is named Isaac Asimov and no one wants to tell him no.
Like, I could just wear a nondescript white shirt with black trousers and say I’m cosplaying as a character from Chainsawman. I could even wear a wife beater with a pair of jeans and say I’m TJ from GTA.
I have a better idea, seperate the cosplayers into a cosplayer-only sections. There problem solved.
If there was a problem at all in the beginning.
How is that a better idea than just asking people to show a basic level of human respect and courtesy? Are you really so thin-skinned, that you’re put out by a sign asking people not to be creeps?
Because the people feeling others up in public are few, but the issue is presented like its the majority.
Sexism against men has been increasing so much, that people dont even question it now. They see something and just assume it must be true. Like men are responsible for 91% of all violent crime. Sounds awful right? I mean, 91%. Thats huge! But then you actually look at it, and that 91% is done by less than 1% of the male population. But for some reason, “men” need to do better. The implication being that this violence is done to women. Which it is… 10% of the time. Men are most likely to be the victims of violent crime at a whopping 81%. In fact, another common belief is that women cant walk the streets at night. They often say things like “If I was a man, Id go for a walk at night and not be afraid.” Which is pretty fucking stupid when you look at the stats. In fact, as it currently stands, women are far safer walking alone at night than they are when they got home. Because 90% of the time, the violence they suffer is from men they live with. Fathers, brothers, uncles, husbands, boyfriends, etc.
You dont need to ask the general public not be creeps. Because the majority of people are not creeps. I used to get felt up by women all the time while working as a glass collector in an upmarket club. It wasnt even close to being the majority of the women, but it was some of them. Should there be signs telling ALL the woman to get their hands off the 18 year old picking up glasses? If youre the type of person who grabs at people, chances are, youre the type of person who doesnt care about being nice and not creepy. So why bother with the sign? Just so you can claim some moral superiority over a group of people that are perceived to be creeps? And thus, the reason for the pushback unveils itself. Its not about being against the message, its about being against the virtue signal and the constantly spread fiction that men are all creeps and women are all victims.
There’s no gendered language on the sign. You’re telling on yourself.
To reassure cosplayers that creeps aren’t tolerated.
But there sure as fuck is in the comment section, isnt there? Because all the cave brained cunts in the world just automatically assume. The only thing Im telling about my self in that comment, is exactly what it said. The fact you disagree, is you telling on your self, you sexist piece of shit.
Neither of the comments upthread from your “men are the real victims” pity party used gendered language either.
Never said “Men are the real victims” or had a pity party, and you saying it doesnt make it so. Maybe if you could read, and maybe if you were a fucking prick, youd see what I saying instead of trying to twist the truth so that you dont have to deal with the fact that youre a piece of shit cock womble, spewing sexist trash in the hope some girl sees you as “Not like the other guys”.
Youre pathetic.
You’re angry.
You’re an angry incel.
lol Jesus, what you gonna call me next? Boomer? Fascist? Fucking idiot.
You just made up statistics what utter, LLM trash.
If by LLM, you mean UNODC among others, then sure. Whats it like being a raging sexist cunt?
Why does this bother you so much if the sign isn’t about you?
No one said it was, you decided it was. The sign doesn’t mention gender, and further it’s about taking photos, not touching people.
I’m really sorry anyone felt entitled to put their hands on your body without your consent. That really sucks. They absolutely should put up signs reminding people to keep their hands to themselves at your old job. I’m guessing the old bats thought they could get away with it because it was wink wink ok with the culture of the place. If people are being touched, the place should make it clear that’s not tolerated and then act on it when you report it. The signs might not stop the pervs but maybe they would signal to the 18 year old that your boss would agree that that’s never ok, and you should report it and there should be consequences.
For the fucking reasons I said, you spoon eating cunt.
With this we can avoid the creeps in their entirety. Also define creepy.
Well luckily conventions kick out creeps and permanent ban repeat offenders. So I guess instead of punishing cosplayers, separating assholes is the real solution.
Then we’d get people with super low effort ones just to exploit the loophole.
Elaboration needed.
I’m dressed as a background character from the third episode of… uh… Excel Saga.
What is your problem with requiring convention patrons to respect others? Honestly, there shouldn’t even have to be a rule for it, but any group of nerds is gonna have a That Guy.
Stop being him.
But patrons do respect each other. The creeps get kicked out pretty quick. Provided that you have evidence for their “creepy” behaviour right & not based on He said, She said right ?
In 1972, a man named Scott Shaw went to the World Science Fiction Convention dressed in a bathing suit and at least one full jar of chunky peanut butter. Bits of peanut butter kept falling off and people kept stepping on them. On 1970s hotel carpet. To this day, 53 years later, no matter which country hosts, Worldcon prohibits the use of peanut butter as any part of a costume. Rules exist for a reason.
Now they do. Because there are rules.
I can think of a convention off the top of my head where at least one creep wrote an entire treatise on groping women at cons. This creep was welcome and celebrated at conventions for decades, until he died in 1992 of AIDS he contracted from a blood transfusion. He was the guest of honor at Worldcon in 1955.
Rules exist for a reason. Sometimes That Guy is named Isaac Asimov and no one wants to tell him no.
Hey. I’m cosplaying a GTA NPC.
Like, I could just wear a nondescript white shirt with black trousers and say I’m cosplaying as a character from Chainsawman. I could even wear a wife beater with a pair of jeans and say I’m TJ from GTA.