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  • pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    While I 100% agree with the sign, I don’t think that cosplay is appropriate for walking the floor at comicon. Maybe I’m just becoming an old prude, but that girl is practically nude, and comicon is an all-ages event. I’m not saying she deserves to be harassed, and I’m not letting anyone off the hook for being a creep to her, but that kind of cosplay should be reserved for photo shoots or adults-only environments.

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      9 days ago

      Why would someone with any age have a problem with nearly nude woman running around? Go touch some Grass in the Park or Beach Sand in the summer or go to a public swimming pool. Everyone is there everyone is there (nearly) nude.

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        9 days ago

        Yeah but that’s why context matters. Wearing a bikini at the beach is one thing, wearing it to a job interview is another. I know this line can be blurry with comic book characters since most of them wear fairly revealing outfits, but I would say wearing one of the hyper-sexualized outfits from the anime about high-school girls who get superpowers when their outfits get more sexually explicit is probably too sexual explicit for an all-ages event.

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          9 days ago

          Oh fuck all the way off. Let a woman dress however she wants. If a Luffy or Conan costume is okay, what this woman is wearing is okay too.

          Sometimes women like drawing gazes. The point is it should always stop at gazes.

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            9 days ago

            Fuck all the way off with this. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to draw gazes, but that doesn’t mean every way of doing that is appropriate for every situation. If you want to draw gazes at a dinner party you wear a low-cut black dress, not a mesh tank top and assless chaps.

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              9 days ago

              Stop. Policing. Women’s. Clothes.

              She isn’t at a dinner party, she’s at a convention.

              What she’s wearing is an accurate and well-done cosplay, and that is 100% appropriate attire for the setting. It would be the equivalent of a ‘low cut black dress’, you sexist asshole.

              Edit: Which shouldn’t matter anyways, because cosplay is not consent. A woman should be able to walk around naked in public without getting sexually harassed, never mind while wearing what she likes. Clothes are never consent. No matter if you judge them ‘appropriate’ or not.

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                9 days ago

                It’s appropriate attire for the setting in your opinion. I think wearing a hyper-sexualized outfit from a hyper-sexualized anime in a situation where children will be present isn’t appropriate. You’re welcome to disagree, but don’t try to high-road me because of it.

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                  9 days ago

                  If you don’t like it you’re free to stay home with your kids, people take their kids to the beach and see similar and nobody bats an eye, get over it or get lost

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                    9 days ago

                    I can just copy-past at this point.

                    Yeah but that’s why context matters. Wearing a bikini at the beach is one thing, wearing it to a job interview is another. I know this line can be blurry with comic book characters since most of them wear fairly revealing outfits, but I would say wearing one of the hyper-sexualized outfits from the anime about high-school girls who get superpowers when their outfits get more sexually explicit is probably too sexual explicit for an all-ages event.

        • rirus@feddit.org
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          9 days ago

          How do you think children will be negatively impacted by nude woman?

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            8 days ago

            I don’t think children will be negatively impacted by nudity, but I think they will be negatively impacted by sexualized nudity (and there are a lot of studies that back that up). I wouldn’t shield my child from a woman wearing a bikini or breastfeeding, but I also wouldn’t bring him to a strip club or show him porn. I think dressing as one of the characters characters from High School Superpowered Sex Uniforms falls into the latter category.

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              8 days ago

              Strip Club and porn have a sexual interaction, but here its just a woman running around like all the others in their costumes.

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                  I looked up a plot summary and content rating reviews, the internet is occasionally useful like that lol. I’m right and you know it because you’ve clearly watched it before, you just don’t want to admit it because it undermines your weird argument. Also it’s weird that you’re a fan of a show that you describe as a bunch of high schoolers in overly sexy outfits

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                    8 days ago

                    Actually, I’ve seen very little of the show. Most of what I do know about it comes from an episode of Death Battle. But it’s cool that you walent out and did a bunch of research to keep arguing with me, very normal stuff.

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      9 days ago

      Theres a double standard at play here though. The amount of skin exposure is comparable, yet one is unacceptable.

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        9 days ago

        Double standard is part of it, but sexualization isn’t just about how much skin is showing. This outfit shows about as much skin as the Conan cosplay, but is clearly more sexualized:

        A Supergirl or Powergirl cosplay can also be revealing, and while you might find someone in that cosplay (or the Conan cosplay) sexual attractive, they’re not as sexually suggestive as what this girl is wearing (which is essentially some belts held together with body tape, I presume). The line is blurry and dependent on context, but I would say this is over that line.

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        9 days ago

        It appears that the NYC Comic Con guideline is “Skimpy costumes are permitted though concessions to accuracy are needed if skimpy to the point of negligible coverage i.e. less than typical swimwear.”

        It is, of course, up to the enforcer, but I would evaluate the Nonon cosplayer as “less than typical swimwear”, and the Conan cosplayer to be about the same as typical swimwear. Some skin-colored underlayer would’ve made it more safe.

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        9 days ago

        Neither is unacceptable depending on context.

        Walking in a supermarket? Both unacceptable

        Comic-con? Both are looking for attention. But no touching, you weirdos.

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          9 days ago

          Walking in a supermarket? Both unacceptable

          Can I opt into a society where both costumes at the supermarket are acceptable?

          Those costumes are too cool to only wear a couple times per year.

    • rirus@feddit.org
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      9 days ago

      (Hardcore) Porn that shows kids an unreal act and can make people addicted is bad. But nude bodies IRL are good.

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      8 days ago

      If your kids are mature enough to read the comics at the convention then they’re mature enough to see people walking around dressed like the characters, right? Why overthink this?

    • √𝛂𝛋𝛆@piefed.worldOP
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      9 days ago

      I respectfully disagree. There is nothing to be ashamed about. The human lack of fur is no cause for shaming. It is nature. The sadistic shaming is the cause of bad behavior. The taboo bottles people and creates the tension that leads to uncontrolled release due to a lack of self exploration and growth. The dogma culture of Puritan masochistic emotional austerity is harmful. Humans are valid for being themselves without anyone else having a right to project their dogma onto anyone else. The Hippocratic aphorism “first do no harm” – so live and let live in peace is all that matters. No harm is done by dressing in any fashion a person chooses, so no one has a right to interfere.

    • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
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      9 days ago

      He uhh soo could you stop sexualizing female bodies? Kthxxbyee

      Edit: calling it now, the people downvoting this are exactly the type of people that are the reason for the sign to exist. Yikes.

          • blarghly@lemmy.world
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            9 days ago

            The individual in the pic is presenting themselves sexually. That is the point of the pic - that a person sexualizing themselves isn’t making themselves universally available.

            • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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              9 days ago

              disagree, she isn’t sexual. she’s just standing there. you are the one who is sexualising her.

              you will disagree and say that it’s because of how sexual she is, but that is only in your eye.

              • blarghly@lemmy.world
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                9 days ago

                By your metric, no one can ever sexualize themselves. No woman can say “I want to look sexy so I will wear this sexy dress.” Which is clearly ridiculous

                • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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                  9 days ago

                  it’s quite telling how consent is a hard concept for you to understand.

                  “don’t rape people please”

                  “but what if someone wants sex? he checkmate”

            • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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              9 days ago

              No, you are sexualizing a person who is literally just standing there and that’s entirely a you problem

      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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        9 days ago

        Can’t cause I am generally sexually attracted to people who register as feminine in my caveman brain. But not just the woman, but the femboys and enbies too!