why do i need to update the app so i can see changes. Whats the point of a change log then? I have auto updates off cause it a hassle to revert back to an earlier version if I dont like the changes. I know for a fact the ig update is for their new stupid map feature and AI shit. I will not update unless it stops working completely. Is it so hard to say what specific bug was fixed and what exactly do you mean by performance. why cant it be detailed like this

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        That was the most upsetting of all of the examples. How condescending (GoOgLe iT). What an ass.

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        I find it deeply offensive that an app could suggest I may not know the word “cornucopia.” I wouldn’t give a shit if it was the only app I could use to pay my bills; if it at any point suggested that I didn’t know a word as common as “cornucopia,” I would delete it immediately, leave a 0 star review, and post the offense to a community like this.

        And just to be clear, the bar for how uncommon a word would have to be in order for it not be offensive is way higher than cornu-fucking-copia.

        “Terpsichorean.” That’s a word I wouldn’t be offended if they thought I didn’t know it. Or maybe “legerdemain.” I know both of those words, but I wouldn’t be offended.

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    For apps with generic update messages that also have source control and changelogs available: check to see how often the updates are just a manifest version bump and nothing more. Way greater than zero.

    Most version revs for apps are just to reset review count and bury negative reviews with “review of an older version”.

    It’s all gamification of walled gardens. Walled gardens that need to die.

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      Is that an iOS thing? On Android versions don’t reset reviews, and there is no “review of older version” message.

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        Play store does the same game. Google always sucks worse these days, sadly. Not pro-Apple, just use Linux.

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      We improved our tracking algorithms to more accurately monitor your every move.

      We found an unpatched microphone exploit that let’s us listen in on all of your conversations.

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    “We’re updating the segmentation logic of our A/B test infrastructure to downgrade its respect for the CloudFlare score when deciding whether or not to mark a session as coming from a bot. This was skewing the data on several of our start screen UI experiments, particularly within APAC data.”

    Sometimes, you really don’t want to hear it ;D

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    Ahow many updates receives an app, is now considered a “good” metric somehow now. So now if dependabot pushes a PR, it’s a new release on the app stores (of course without testing)

    The algorithms on the app stores now consider the app “active” and push the app “up” in ranking

    There was a certain billionaire bragging about his app getting 3 vibe-coded updates a day while the competition “only” got 3 a week

    So, they can’t write a real change log. What can they write? “Dependabot updated leftpad from 1.1.3.2 to 1.1.3.3” “untested: updated Gradle from 8.14.2 to 8.14.3” “200mb update to change a comma in the Hungarian translation”

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    • more ads
    • more pointless notifications
    • taken out that one thing you actually liked and put it behind a paywall
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    chime: a PM asked an AI to write this after the only dev that knew how to do this quit

    Discord: The PM was frustrated with the devs not summarizing this release crap that no one cares about anyway and hid it behind a link ah that’s so much cleaner now.

    Instagram: fuck you

    Linphone:

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    I would rather no change log than the LLM generated fall thing… that was a waste of time to read.

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      Google does a lot of A/B testing, so listing new changes may be pointless as the new features may be available only to select few.

      Also developers have no incentive to document changes. It’s a hassle to compile a list of changes since last release, and people don’t read the Changelog for every release, especially with auto updates on.

      I’d be great if they could at least use an LLM to compile the Changelog

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    I 100% agree that proper changelog should be provided, but to defend devs a litte, the play store changelog character limit makes it almost useless for anything but very small changes.

    Though doing funny haha in the changelog is so dumb, they should be like “this changelog field can’t handle the changes, please see the changelog inside the app”

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      please see the changelog inside the app

      Is the hope that, after updating and checking the changelog and deciding that updating is NOT for you because of some idiotic breaking-change, you just hop in the time machine and prevent yourself from updating ?

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    “We are hard at work making discord work better for you”

    While content being completely locked away inside proprietary app.

    I dont know, I feel like all these fake messages are quite dystopian. What happened to actually treating users as intelligent? I guess maybe today most users dont know anything about tech so thats why this is happening.

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    Modern mobile app development almost always releases features gradually behind feature flags, so changelogging things is not necessarily practical to do.

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      Why not? Put “added feature XY, staged rollout in the coming X days” in the changelog.

      Certainly better to know that there is a new feature and you might get it now or some time later, than some nonsense like “nothing says fall like financial progress”

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        Well, you might be inclined to not roll the feature out at all, depending on the results you see from the rollout/an A/B-test. Also, having it written out with a date in the changelog binds you to that date, unless you want the embarrassment of not shipping on a promised time. Maintaining a changelog for very large app development organizations is also a pretty damn hard task, trying to coordinate whatever all teams are releasing in a particular build.

        I agree that getting cute with the changelog messages is a bit stale. Might as well not add anything at that point.

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          Maintaining a changelog for very large app development organizations is also a pretty damn hard task, trying to coordinate whatever all teams are releasing in a particular build.

          I feel this in my bones. Our biggest device contains hundreds of apps and firmware. We generally update the apps and firmware together. It’s nearly impossible to summarize the changes in a meaningful way. What issues were fixed? Likely a few hundred. What new features were added or improved? Another big list. Management thought AI would magically solve this problem, but it turns out that it has no idea which things are worth mentioning vs which should be glossed over.

          It sucks both internally and externally.