President Donald Trump announced Monday the Department of Defense will likely be renamed the 'Department of War'; within a week.
  • Asafum@feddit.nlEnglish
    763·
    12 days ago

    Lmfao finally something I’m glad he’s doing!

    The name change was fucking psychological manipulation for the population. You can’t argue against defense department spending as easily as you can argue against war department spending.

    Bring it on! Make our jobs easier you bumbling brainrotted doughnut dictator.

    • kingofras@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      12 days ago

      Hopefully his next announcement will be from the Dark House in the Doughnut Office from behind the Whimsical Desk.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      138·
      12 days ago

      To make a slight counter, the Defense Department does more than fight. We have humanitarian mission capabilities, and we use it. When shit goes down, you want the military to roll in.

      I’ve told the story many times, but after Hurricane Ivan I assumed I was on my own. When the Florida Guard rolled in the next morning I was weeping in the streets, on my knees, thank god, thank god. I had no idea there would be any aid. Most humbling. Tearing up now in fact.

      I also wept, most literally, when the Mississippi Guard rolled in after Katrina. My FIL was there. Two bronze stars from Iraq, the Mississippi coast broke him, PTSD. He was never the same man after cutting houses in half with chainsaws, pushing corpses aside, leading the tip of the spear.

      “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

      Whoever said it, or didn’t, we need such men.

      • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
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        12 days ago

        alternatively, instead of having the military have these capabilities perhaps fund non-military departments to do it

        it’s a function of the US military being bloated that they can use some of that bloat to do other things, but it’s far from efficient

        • atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          121·
          12 days ago

          This isn’t necessarily bloat, it’s things the military needs to be able to do. Like 90% of the military is just good logistics and the ability to move resources anywhere in the world quickly. That’s good for both an army on the move and helping hurricane victims.

          • douglasg14b@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            12 days ago

            Logistics is effectively the hardest problem and the most expensive one.

            A lot of people don’t realize that a lot of wasteful spending is effectively required in order to maintain any semblance or level of readiness.

            If you are not manufacturing equipment, ammunition, and similar items then you have no one and nowhere to actually manufacture them. A large part of spending is keeping the people, skill sets, facilities, and supply chains running and operating at a minimum required level to support an increase in need. If you don’t do this then when you need it, you can’t manufacture it anymore, your entire supply chain has to start from scratch.

            It’s incredibly wasteful but also somewhat necessary.

            • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              12 days ago

              Yep. Same reasons we can’t built a Saturn V any longer. All the supply chains, expertise, etc., are long gone. Imagine keeping all that up to run a B-52 Stratofortress. And yet we do it!

              • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
                11·
                12 days ago

                All the supply chains, expertise, etc., are long gone.

                Don’t deport it to El Salvador then.

            • phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish
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              12 days ago

              There also has to be redundancy in the supply chain for critical items. That can look like wasteful duplication to someone who doesn’t understand how the process works.

          • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            12 days ago

            Like 90% of the military is just good logistics and the ability to move resources anywhere in the world quickly.

            There’s an old WW2 story, where a captured Nazi officer realized they were going to lose the war… Because he overheard American officers complaining that they were running low on ice cream. Nazis at the time were eating their own boot leather while they froze to death in Russia. Meanwhile, the Americans were complaining about a lack of ice cream.

            The logistics behind the American military is honestly a modern wonder. If they were willing to divert the time, manpower, and resources to do so, they could erect a fully staffed and stocked McDonalds anywhere on the globe in less than 48 hours. Imagine an entire restaurant being built in a single weekend. Now imagine it in the middle of the ocean on an oil rig, or at the North Pole. The sheer amount of resources and manpower required would be monumental by most standards, but it wouldn’t even be worth a footnote on the military’s expense report.

            • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              11·
              12 days ago

              a fully operational mcdonalds is fully fucking useless. this is not a flex. the logistics are impressive and necessary yeah, but not for shitty overpriced burgers. that’s just yay for corporate defense contracts.

        • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          12 days ago

          Such a scheme sounds better, but the discipline and infrastructure to make it happen?

          We’re not talking social workers replacing cops, we’re talking hard motherfuckers doing what it takes, under orders, no failure.

          Anyway, if you ever live the other side of a true disaster, you might see what I mean.

      • skisnow@lemmy.caEnglish
        10·
        12 days ago

        If you’d stopped at the end of the second paragraph I might even have upvoted, but then on the third paragraph it started sounding a bit too much like one of Trump’s “crying tough guy” stories, and by the end of the post it was full on pro-war.

    • x0x7@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      12 days ago

      Came here to say this. It’s exactly when it became the department of defense that we had never ending war.

      Though I’d still like it to be named the department of defense and then actually do defense. Unless there is a threat of an American being attacked on domestic ground by a foreign power, this isn’t really the intended purpose of the military under our constitution.

      We should not “defend” our “interests abroad.” We shouldn’t have interests abroad. That’s also one of the founding ideas of this country. “Defend our interest abroad” is an intentionally vague euphemism for “if we didn’t use a euphemism and just told you in plain words what we’re doing you wouldn’t like it because what we are doing is killing people to protect the profits of a very tiny number of people whose company would lose profit if we didn’t.” If that’s not what that euphemism means they wouldn’t need a euphemism.

      • phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        12 days ago

        Unless there is a threat of an American being attacked on domestic ground by a foreign power, this isn’t really the intended purpose of the military under our constitution.

        Back in the 1700s, a standing military wasn’t as necessary, since response times were generally measurable in months, and you could stand up an army in that time. Even then, you needed a navy, since shipbuilding took lots of money and time. But now, to prevent an attack on the civilian population or the government, readiness needs to be much, much higher.

        I’m more in agreement with you about “interests abroad.” There’s far too much interference in the affairs of foreign countries in order to benefit US-based corporations and the ambitions of certain factions of the US elite. But that’s a two-way street. For example, Trump is sabotaging renewable energy projects so that the US will continue to be dependent on fossil fuels, since that makes us more vulnerable to manipuation of that market by Russia and other suppliers. Eliminating that massive supply-chain risk should be one of the main pillars of our medium-term national security strategy, and would keep us from being drawn into wars.

  • MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.caEnglish
    712·
    12 days ago

    TRUMP RAPES CHILDREN.

    Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

    Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

    Here’s the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

    —————————other Epstein Information

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

    Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

    Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he’s building ‘legal dream team’ to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

    —————————other Trump information:

    Here’s trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

    Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

    Trump’s modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

    Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too! Please copy and paste this elsewhere!

    • pheggs@feddit.orgEnglish
      101·
      12 days ago

      I think one of the main issues is that most of his voters probably just don’t care about it at all

      • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
        3·
        12 days ago

        The Epstein story still is ongoing in the MAGA base. The whole thing is eating away at Trumps base and despite them getting some of their major talking heads in line, it is still brooding.

        • MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          12 days ago

          dude, his base is so fucking stupid and brainwashed that it is completely impervious. These people rationalize and excuse every dirty thing he does and they will never stop. They are a lost cause, and people like you need to hurry up and have your come to jesus moment on that fact.

        • pheggs@feddit.orgEnglish
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          12 days ago

          I hope you are right, but my fear is if it doesn’t align with their interests they might just invent an excuse in their head

      • MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.caEnglish
        31·
        12 days ago

        a large portion of his voters are subhuman morons. the remaining portion is exploiting the previous because they’re subhuman morons.

  • salacious_coaster@infosec.pubEnglish
    321·
    12 days ago

    Might as well. It was originally called that, and the DoD name was always kind of a lame coat of off-white landlord paint.

    • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      22·
      12 days ago

      Well, Dept. of War and Dept. of The Navy became DoD. I used to work for them, some people think I’m a Veteran because I use the block print and the 24h time and today is 25Aug25. I’m not, never been shot at but that shit just gets ingrained in you.

    • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
      3·
      12 days ago

      Kind of. The Department of War was the Army only. The Department of Navy was its own department and operated based on a different set of military demands, which was a major reason why the Marines exist.

      It wasn’t until after World War II when the USA recognized the difficulty in having two separate departments for the military made combined operations hard to implement. You also had the Army maintaining a larger peacetime size and a third branch, the Air Force, being created to optimize for a new theater of war.

  • blaze@programming.devEnglish
    22·
    12 days ago

    They missed a great chance to pull directly out of 1984 and call it the Ministry of Peace.

  • MourningDove@lemmy.zipEnglish
    20·
    12 days ago

    I seriously think that Trump is the singularity of what should be known as a Stupidity Hole. Seriously. Think about it. Information goes in and never sees light again. No data, written or spoken is ever allowed to leave once absorbed. And once the info reaches the Epstein Radius, It is unable to escape its doom, and is pulled slowly towards the center where it will be broken down into unintelligible sounds that resemble that of grunts and gremlinesque slobbering.

    And the more information he consumes the larger his radius. As a child, his stupidity only influenced small things. Like, toys and his hands. As his gelatinous body grew, so too did the mass of his dumb.

    Think Florida man just happened? Fuck no! That shit was Mar a Lago. The circumference of dumb envelopes Florida in its entirety and is now what’s known as a “lost cause.”

  • MetalMachine@feddit.nlEnglish
    17·
    12 days ago

    I mean, that’s definitely a more honest name, how much of what they do is actually “defense” vs just imperialism

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      12 days ago

      He wants a Nobel because Obama got one. Could it be any more obvious?!

      Trump hates Obama’s guts, and Obama drove him to run for the Presidency. Don’t believe me? That single roast changed world history. I mean that. That video will be studied 300 years from now as a lever that changed the Western world.