[edit: I thank everyone for their comments and time. A lot of very interesting opinions and view points. Unfortunately also a lot of things that went away from the actual answer. So I’m thinking maybe this thread can be closed without deleting it?]

The more I hear people talk about it who aren’t cis-het men, the more I hear criticism about the concept. But so far, I’ve only heard people say that it’s stupid, that it’s not a thing, that it’s men’s own fault etc. But I’ve yet to understand where that criticism comes from. I don’t want to start a discussion on whether or not it’s real or not. I just want to understand where the critics are coming from.

  • rabber@lemmy.caEnglish
    5·
    13 days ago

    I think there is definitely a male loneliness epidemic but I think there is also an equally bad female loneliness epidemic that nobody talks about enough

    • madcaesar@lemmy.world
      5·
      13 days ago

      I think what’s happening is:

      40% of men are good people

      40% of women are good people

      The remaining 20% are pieces of shit that demonize and demean the other sex, which has caused the 80% to become scared and reclusive.

      Social media makes it seem like the percentages are flipped but they are not!

      The numbers are made up but you get my point.

    • Preventer79@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      13 days ago

      Modern online incel and radfem movements were created to pit them against each other and prevent them from uniting and creating positive social change.

        • EnsignWashout@startrek.website
          1·
          13 days ago

          I can’t prove anything, but:

          • There’s evidence that billionaires are taking much more than they earn, and that we (everyone else) would be dramatically better off without them (whether we tax them away or… Come to some other compromise.)
          • Billionaires own most media outlets and social media sites, even those these don’t actually make much money compared to everything else the billionaires own. This makes some people ask why they bother…
          • There’s a noticable tendency in billionaire owned media to focus daily on divisive topics. The specific topic changes, but the divisiveness continues.
          • There is history of powerful authoritarians investing heavily in divisive propaganda, primarily to break apart and distract groups of people who could overthrow them.

          What I have laid out is not proof that today’s billionaires are directing their staff to verbally attack minorites at any opportunity.

          But it certainly is something to think about next time a vicious rumor about a minority group comes along.