[edit: I thank everyone for their comments and time. A lot of very interesting opinions and view points. Unfortunately also a lot of things that went away from the actual answer. So I’m thinking maybe this thread can be closed without deleting it?]

The more I hear people talk about it who aren’t cis-het men, the more I hear criticism about the concept. But so far, I’ve only heard people say that it’s stupid, that it’s not a thing, that it’s men’s own fault etc. But I’ve yet to understand where that criticism comes from. I don’t want to start a discussion on whether or not it’s real or not. I just want to understand where the critics are coming from.

    • the_elder@midwest.social
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      14 days ago

      I reject your opinion. Men shouldn’t be dictating women’s bodies and women shouldn’t be dismissing men’s feelings. Two wrongs, etc etc, I shouldn’t have to explain this to an adult.

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          Germanys longest chancler was a woman, Merkel. The EU is lead by a woman The head of the UK and Commonwealth was a woman and lets not forget PM Thatcher or Ms Salad Truss Italys PM is a woman, so is Denmarks and latvias Germanys parliament president is a woman The leader of europes biggest fascist partys in italy, france and germany are all woman.

          What gender one is doesnt matter. Its the policies. Though yes woman get the short end of the stick by old peoples preference of leadership.

          Also why bring the colour of the skin into play? For europe alone: guess what ofc its mostly going to be “white” people running their nations. Same in sub saharan africa its all black people. And guess what japan is run by japanese.

          Though i am guessing you are american and therefor segregation by race runs deep in your mind since childhood.

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          brb going to use this as my defense for being an asshole to women. It’s expected of me.

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          Generalisation of a such large group of people. Love it.

          What would you say if i say “black people are bad”? Because there are also a lot of bad black people out there

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          I am currently a men, am I bad?

          Are you a men? Are you bad because of it?

          If not, by virtue of being a not-men are you good?

    • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      And that gives them a higher position?

      Taking your argumentation into another context but keeping the same intention: europeans had colonialised africa for over 100 years, means they cant critisise the africans nations politics?

      “X did z to y so y can talk freely about matters that affect only X but x not about y”