• TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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    12 days ago

    It’s no different than shooting animals with a gun (proper or airsoft or whatever), which i think any sensible person would agree should bar you from owning guns.

    I think there’s quite a big difference between senselessly running over an animal and shooting one with a gun. I mean hunting for food and animal population control are kinda necessary in a lot of situations, while running over an animal isn’t.

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      12 days ago

      hunting for food

      Go to Wendy’s

      animal population control

      Bring back the native big cats

      There. Problem solved.

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        12 days ago

        Go to Wendy’s

        You would prefer that animals are raised in horrendous conditions without ever seeing sunlight only to be slaughtered over shooting an animal that has grown up in it’s natural habitat?

        Like, vegetarians I can get, because they argue that we shouldn’t be eating meat at all. Arguing that industrial farming is better for animal welfare than hunting is just absurd though.

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          12 days ago

          There is a correlative link between the willingness to hurt animals and psychopathy. You start out hiring animals and you are more likely to be okay hurting humans.

          If people are going to choose to eat meat, then I would prefer that they are protected from the trauma that comes with animal killing.

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            11 days ago

            There is a correlative link between the willingness to hurt animals and psychopathy.

            I think you’re conflating hunting with torturing animals for entertainment…

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                10 days ago

                Lol, I’m sure you do… you’re just being purposely obtuse. Hunters do not hunt with intent to cause undue suffering to animals. With the animal harm associated with psychopathy the suffering is the express intent of the harm, not a byproduct of it.

                If hunting was actually correlated with psychopathy then we’d be in a bit of a pickle, considering that we evolved from hunting and gathering societies.

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                  9 days ago

                  Hmm … maybe you’re right in that it’s a matter of degrees. To me, there’s a minimum amount of empathy that people should have, and below that I think they’re crazy. So yes, psychopaths are probably more crazy than hunters. I can see that making sense.

                  To me, it still takes a crazy mind to look at a breathing mammal and straight up murder it. More so the more intelligent it is.

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                    9 days ago

                    Hmm … maybe you’re right in that it’s a matter of degrees. To me, there’s a minimum amount of empathy that people should have, and below that I think they’re crazy.

                    Psychology is not really a hard science, there is no real minimum or maximum requirements needed for a diagnosis. It’s all subjective to how a patient interacts and behaves compared to the social normative.

                    To me, it still takes a crazy mind to look at a breathing mammal and straight up murder it.

                    Eh, I guess it just depends on your ethical construct. I’m mostly a vegetarian because of environmental reasons, that and I think that industrialized farming is morally abhorrent. I would much rather hunt, kill, and consume a deer than go to a Wendy’s. There’s a lot less suffering involved in virtually all hunting than just about any industrialized farm.