• blady_blah@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      When waymo was first getting qualified, they had human drivers too. Once they had so many miles, they quit needing the humans.

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      11 days ago

      Didn’t Waymo start with assisting drivers though? Like I get it, fuck this shitstain, but this seems like a very reasonable approach to self driving cars.

      • Step 1: Prove the concept in a closed environment.
      • Step 2: Prove the concept in an open environment, but with traning wheels in case something goes wrong.
      • Step 3: After extensive testing in step 2, full rollout of final product.
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      That’s because Tesla self-driving takes a different, and imo way worse, approach.

      Waymo relies on mapping, the entire city is basically 3D modelled and loaded into the car memory. It’s more or less ‘on rails’. It also uses LIDAR for live data alongside imaging cameras, again building a 3D model of its environment combined with image recognition.

      Tesla decided that, for some reason, they want their cars to drive ‘like humans’, only relying on vision and deployable anywhere, without pre-mapping.

      Demanding a computer to behave like humans, instead of using a computer’s strengths, seems like a very poorly thought out move to me.

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        10 days ago

        drive ‘like humans’, only relying on vision […] without pre-mapping.

        Demanding a computer to behave like humans

        So basically their taxis will go into the job of driving a taxi without any prior knowledge of the city? Like a human? Only relying on road signs? Will it also stop to ask for directions? Like wtf? What kind of stupid idea is this from Tesla. Sounds absolutely moronic.

        A human taxi driver doesn’t work like this. They are people who know the city very well going in, or at least used to before GPS navigation in vehicles came to aid.

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          He’s famously said that humans are good enough with just our two eyes. So he went the cheap route of not including lidar and relying on stereoscopic cameras.

          He’s an idiot. Because when I want stuff automated, I want it to be better than what a human can do.

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            10 days ago

            humans are good enough with just our two eyes

            This requires the car to have an equally sophisticated visual cortex as well, which we cannot achieve right now. Cars need those better sensors to equal our abilities.

            God, hearing his stupid arguments shows us he really knows nothing about anything.