• hperrin@lemmy.ca
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    16 days ago

    Your stuff is still in the cloud, so I would say no. It’s better than using the big tech products, but I wouldn’t say it’s fully “self hosted”. Not that that really makes much of a difference. You’re still pretty much in control of everything, so you should be fine.

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      16 days ago

      Where is the tipping point though? If I have a server at my parents house, they live in Germany and I in Korea, does my dad host it then because he is paying for the electricity and the access to the internet and makes sure those things work?

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        16 days ago

        Your parents’ house isn’t the cloud, so yeah, it’s self hosted. The “tipping point” is whether you’re using a hosting provider.

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          16 days ago

          They are using a hosting provider - their dad.

          “The cloud” is also just a bunch of machines in a basement. Lots of machines in lots of “basements”, but still.

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            16 days ago

            “hosting provider” in this instance I think means “do you pay them (whoever has the hardware in their possession) a monthly/quarterly/yearly fee”

            otherwise you can also say “well ACTUALLY your isp is providing the ability to host on the wan so they are the real hosting provider” and such…

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          16 days ago

          Isn’t my dad the hosting provider? I ordered the hardware, he connected it to his switch and his electricity and pressed the button to start it the first time. From there on I logged in to his VPN and set up the server like I would at Hetzner.

          But you’re right it doesn’t really make a difference. I feel the only difference it makes for me where I post my questions on Lemmy if it is in a !selfhosting community or a !linux community.

          From a feeling perspective, even if I use Hetzners cloud, I feel I self host my single user PieFed instance (and matrix, my other websites, mastodon, etc.) because I have to preform basically the same steps as for things I’m really hosting at home like open-webui, immich, peertube.