• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The irony here is that Trump’s coalition was so broad because these minority groups felt abandoned when Biden didn’t fulfill his promises, but everyone here is kind of just pretending Harris would have actually done something for them. Whether it was inflation, cop cities, endless war, abortion repeal, or assisting in the perpetration of child genocide, Dems did a really shitty job.

    And for those of you about to whine about ‘both sides-ism’, yes, both of you do lie and make extravagant promises during campaign time, and then always fail to deliver.

    But you still vote Democrat and Republican anyway.

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      5 months ago

      Sure, let’s say “things didn’t improve much” and “they’re actively trying to kill us” is the very exact same thing, and justify taking sides with the later.

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      When Democrats lose, there’s endless navel-gazing and wondering what went wrong. If there was enough minority outreach, if there was enough non-minority outreach, what policies should’ve been passed or left on the cutting room floor.

      When Republicans lose, they simply don’t give a fuck. No one on the right was asking after Trump’s loss in 2020 whether it was a mistake to let him run again or if he should’ve done an interview with Charlamagne the God. They just doubled down on Trump.

      The point isn’t to say Democrats should be more like Republicans. Republicans are a loony cult, no one should be like them. The point is that there is an extreme and insane double standard, and anyone who acts like Democrats are the ones who need to be harsher on their candidates is hard to take seriously.

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        5 months ago

        are the ones who need to be harsher on their candidates is hard to take seriously.

        LOL, I remember in Biden’s State of the Union when he ridiculed the Defund the Police movement, and it became crystal clear that you were voting fascist no matter who you picked.

        Fuck yes Dems should be more discerning, but it’s not like you the voter have any power. It’s the rich picking your candidates for you too.

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          Maybe you will should’ve picked a more marketable slogan than the one that makes it sound like you wanna just let criminals win. There’s a difference between a fascist and a gutless politician. Trump is the former, Biden is the latter. What leftists need is the ability to recognize shades of grey and the notion of getting somewhere step by step instead of trying to convince people to leap all the way down the stairs.

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            There’s a difference between a fascist and a gutless politician. Trump is the former, Biden is the latter.

            The only difference is one says mean things and one doesn’t. That’s it. Biden supported cop cities (and by extension, murderous cops), didn’t do anything to actually make life livable in America for most (and in fact, wanted to make banks report lower balances so they could tax gig workers harder), and enthusiastically supplied WMD’s to a genocide. That to me is pretty darn fascist.

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      The point is this guy VOTED for this. He’s not taking the both sides bs argument. He actively supported this, there is a bigggggg difference.