Looks like a very interesting article. But the fact that it’s behind a paywall sums up the other problem with the Internet in general: everything has become hyper-monetized and gated.
I dont disagree that getting paywalled sucks (and won’t make any specific comments about The Atlantic) but the alternative is hypertargeted ads plastering every free pixel of the screen and invasive data-scraping.
It might just be a sign of getting older and managing my finances a bit better, but at this point in my life I don’t really cry much when i see good content put behind a paywall (again, no comments about *The Atlantic).
Paid subscription and you still shove ads at me? Fuck off.
Thing is, that there are multitudes of sites I want to read like an article or two. Paying a subscription for all of them just isn’t feasible.
By now I even forgot the name of the project, but there was the idea to pay the actual creator for the article I’m reading.
And I really liked the idea. But as far as I know, that project died - and messy, if I remember correctly.
But the idea is still good imho.
I’d have no problem chipping in a bit, when an article is written good and informative. But I don’t want to buy the cow, when I only want a sip of milk.
Paywalls are the norm of traditional journalism. People got so used to a bunch of spammy, ad-fed, click bait journalism and now many are not willing to pay for good articles.
I wish there was a better way to discuss these kinds of articles. There are sometimes gift links which are best for smaller group discussions… But nobody’s found a model that isn’t the mess that is ads that also allows “free viewing.”
Paywalls are the norm of traditional journalism. People got so used to a bunch of spammy, ad-fed, click bait journalism and now many are not willing to pay for good articles.
Huh. You’re not wrong. Newspapers were classic user-fee newsfeeds.
But you could give away your paper when you were done. Is that early BitTorrent?
I don’t know; it’s one of those weird things where digital “cost to copy” being cheap really makes things problematic.
Unlike BitTorrent you were giving away your access to that item and possibly never getting it back; we don’t really have a standard way of doing stuff like that in the digital era. The closest thing we have is very clunky, greedy, and intrusive DRM systems.
Other differences: When you bought a newspaper you got a physical product. You could read it, keep it, frame it, craft with it, or whatever you want. It took labor and machinery to create and distribute. The online article costs nothing to make, isn’t something you can keep or use in any way, in fact at any point you might lose access to it.
Looks like a very interesting article. But the fact that it’s behind a paywall sums up the other problem with the Internet in general: everything has become hyper-monetized and gated.
I dont disagree that getting paywalled sucks (and won’t make any specific comments about The Atlantic) but the alternative is hypertargeted ads plastering every free pixel of the screen and invasive data-scraping.
It might just be a sign of getting older and managing my finances a bit better, but at this point in my life I don’t really cry much when i see good content put behind a paywall (again, no comments about *The Atlantic).
Paid subscription and you still shove ads at me? Fuck off.
Thing is, that there are multitudes of sites I want to read like an article or two. Paying a subscription for all of them just isn’t feasible.
By now I even forgot the name of the project, but there was the idea to pay the actual creator for the article I’m reading.
And I really liked the idea. But as far as I know, that project died - and messy, if I remember correctly.
But the idea is still good imho.
I’d have no problem chipping in a bit, when an article is written good and informative. But I don’t want to buy the cow, when I only want a sip of milk.
This is a bad take.
Paywalls are the norm of traditional journalism. People got so used to a bunch of spammy, ad-fed, click bait journalism and now many are not willing to pay for good articles.
I wish there was a better way to discuss these kinds of articles. There are sometimes gift links which are best for smaller group discussions… But nobody’s found a model that isn’t the mess that is ads that also allows “free viewing.”
Huh. You’re not wrong. Newspapers were classic user-fee newsfeeds.
But you could give away your paper when you were done. Is that early BitTorrent?
I don’t know; it’s one of those weird things where digital “cost to copy” being cheap really makes things problematic.
Unlike BitTorrent you were giving away your access to that item and possibly never getting it back; we don’t really have a standard way of doing stuff like that in the digital era. The closest thing we have is very clunky, greedy, and intrusive DRM systems.
Other differences: When you bought a newspaper you got a physical product. You could read it, keep it, frame it, craft with it, or whatever you want. It took labor and machinery to create and distribute. The online article costs nothing to make, isn’t something you can keep or use in any way, in fact at any point you might lose access to it.
Eh, newspapers amd magazines had ads, they were just easier to skip
They also had subscriptions… And paywalls… You had to buy them from a newspaper stand or subscribe to have the paperboy deliver them…
Yes, I’m aware. That’s an extension of what you said that I responded to.