I’ve known a few in the U.S., and even worked at one. Maybe people won’t become billionaires doing this, but why wait for a complete overhaul of society to implement more of what are good ideas.

I’d also like to see more childcare co-ops, or community shared pre-k schools. Wheres the movement to build communities and pool resources around these business models in the US? In short, co-ops are the closest socialist/communist business model that’s actually implemented in the U.S., so why are more leftists not doing this?

  • nifty@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    13 days ago

    I am sorry, but what does bought out mean? The person running it simply didn’t have to sell. If you’re saying “money was too tempting”, then isn’t that an inherent flaw in any Marxist Leninist theory in practice? So let’s say, the business wasn’t run by someone who cared enough about others and got greedy, so why not start one where you pick the right people? If you can’t do that, then why should any state ever cede over production to workers? How would we ensure greed doesn’t take over then?

    • yarr@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      13 days ago

      If you’re saying “money was too tempting”, then isn’t that an inherent flaw in any Marxist Leninist theory in practice?

      HA, yes, yes it is. Marxist Leninist works most effectively when everyone is moralistic and considers the larger picture. It doesn’t work when you have a world of selfish money grubbers. Notice which system is winning today?

      I’d like to see you own a small business and get offered 10x its value by a large corp. Then you can see whether you want to maintain your praxis or retire on a nice beach somewhere the rest of your life.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        13 days ago

        Marxist Leninist works most effectively when everyone is moralistic and considers the larger picture.

        Which is why it can never work

        • yarr@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          13 days ago

          Which is why it can never work

          That’s right. OP had an amazing moment of self-awareness.

    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      13 days ago

      In the one example with the grocery co-op: I can assure you, few if any, of the people involved with the co-op were Marxist-Leninists, let alone comfortable with Marxism or the ‘S’ word. So that was kind of a critical flaw in any Marxist-Leninist theory in practice.

      A lot of people practice forms of community action without having any sort of class consciousness. A wealthy philanthropist can offer a bunch of money with strings attached and people will jump at the promises without second thought and rarely keep up with the follow-through.

      Point I was making nonetheless was these operations tend to exist under seige from competing and profiteering interests. If I remember correctly the grocery co-op was having issues making the skyrocketing rent payments for the commercial lot. That was the problem the money solved: the one created by the landlord.

      So in a sense I was saying ‘the pressures of capital tend to be too great’ than money being tempting or greed from the community.