• see cool video on front page
  • click
  • “Haha, fuck you, you’ve just clicked on the invisible button that takes up half the thumbnail like a fucking moron!”
  • redirected to the sponsorship info page
  • go back
  • video gone

why are you completely incapable of making a functional website you wet dildo

  • warm@kbin.earth
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    2 months ago

    UX has seemingly disappeared across the web unfortunately. Sites just change things for the sake of it.

    • Boozilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      I’m convinced that almost all of the frustrating shit that corporations dump down on us comes from weekly staff meetings where some suckup climber just wants to tell the boss hey look, we did a shiny new thing! A thing nobody wanted or asked for. Line must go up.

      • Final Remix@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        That’s literally how google works. They want everyone “innovating” and changing shit constantly. Got a new idea for a thing? Roll with it. Gmail is a different name now? Roll with it! Massive UI change for no.discernable reason? You’d better believe you’re gonna be told to roll that out, and someone else will take your place and change shit again shortly.

  • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago
    • go back
    • video gone

    That part is the worst. I am sick and tired of websites breaking the back button! When I click back it’s because I wanted to see the thing that was there before. If I wanted it to just refresh from scratch I would reload the page instead!

    It’s not just YouTube, by the way. Even Lemmy does that shit too!

    • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      I still see websites doing that shit where you click back and end up on a page that redirects you to where you where.

    • RedStrider@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      YouTube had a solution not too long ago, when you hovered on a thumbnail it would show a little button that queues up the video on a temporary playlist while you keep browsing. But for whatever reason they hid that in a menu.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        That’s not really the issue. The issue is that it doesn’t give you a proper URL with enough information to uniquely identify the set of results it loaded for you, so if you reload the page it re-runs the query and you get a new set of results instead of the same set you had before. That fundamentally breaks how the Internet is supposed to work: any particular URL should always go to the same resource.

        The fact that Youtube also does lazy-loading infinite scroll bullshit makes it even harder to show examples about, so I’ll switch to Lemmy now. Take this URL, for example:

        https://lemmy.world/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&pageCursor=P115f329&sort=TopSixHour

        (That’s from navigating to page 2 of my feed, which is set to “all” and “top 6 hours”.)

        If I go to that URL now, and then I go to it again, say, six hours from now, it ought to still show the same list of posts. But it doesn’t. Instead, it re-runs the query and shows me the new results from six hours in the future, which is an entirely different result set. That’s not what I want! I want to be able to keep navigating back and forth through the old result set until I explicitly ask for a new one e.g. by clicking on the instance logo or choosing a new search from the [posts|comments], [subsribed|local|all], and [sort type list] controls.

        • intensely_human@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          Just generally speaking, I think of this as “concreteness”.

          Software should seek to mimic real spaces, in the sense that one step back takes you to the place you were one step ago.

          One pattern that breaks this in my opinion is when a menu appears as soon as you scroll up. It’s just a minor inconvenience, but 95% of the time I scroll up on an article, it’s because I want to re-read a line of text that just disappeared under the top of my screen. This menu reappear crap means I have to scroll up like three inches to get something that’s only a quarter inch under the upper edge.

          I think it’s a matter of mental health to have software that faithfully mimics real world causality.

          It’s all very vague in my head, but I would love to articulate this fully into a design spec.

          It’s kind of like Google’s Material Design spec in its idea, but it’s about the effects of navigation rather than just how UI elements behave.

          It kind of relates to the concept of a State Function in math and science.

      • Tanoh@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        …and it drives me insane when it is not real links but some javascript/button/div-with-onclick/etc and middle click won’t work