cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18340810

In a contentious and misleading post on social media, JD Vance, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, launched an attack on Vice President Kamala Harris’s support for LGBTQ+ inclusivity. Vance falsely accused Algerian Olympic boxer Imane Khelif of being transgender, causing widespread condemnation and backlash from human rights advocates.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    It’s important to note the reason all this kicked off is a Russian boxing organization (that let her fight multiple times) disqualified her after she beat an undefeated rising Russian star, and won’t disclose what test they accuse her of failing.

    But they have said it wasn’t the testosterone test.

    So it’s not surprising Republicans immediately ran with it

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      It’s actually worse. They said “it wasn’t the Testosterone test” when the DQ was announced in October, then yesterday said “it was the Testosterone test, or she has XY karyotype” depending on whichever one of the speakers you believe.

      Fool me once, your fault. Twice? I’m an idiot.

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      And, they DQed her in a way that erased her win, making that Russian boxer still undefeated on the record.

      But yeah, they claimed she failed a test, but won’t reveal who did it, or the methodology used, meaning it’s not replicable and thus NOT GOOD SCIENCE.

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        It was made up in the first place anyways. Russia has 0 credibility on the national stage. If a Russian institute announced that the sky was blue, I’d go out to check. He should be ashamed citing their bullshit, but I suspect that’s an emotion he’s incapable of.

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        It’s not a Russian organization,

        It wasn’t a Russian organization…

        But most of it’s operations have been moved to Russia, and their sole sponsor is a Russian company…

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Association#2023–present

        The guy has even canceled elections to replace him. By now it’s essentially a kidnapped organization, literally nothing prior to 2023 matters anymore. It is only the IBA still in name only.

        Like the old NRA takeover in the 70s.

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          It’s important to note the reason all this kicked off is a Russian boxing organization

          That is what I was responding to. Your flippant dismissal of what the IBA actually is: a highly relevant intentional sporting organization for boxing, which is still true despite their current situation.

          Shit on them for everything you laid out, their farsical antics this week, blatant corruption, or any other number of issues, but don’t intentionally mislead and mischaracterize them to an audience that most likely largely ignorant of amateur boxing or combat sports in general. Or at least, that is I assuming as there are no active combat sports communities on Lemmy that I have seen, be it MMA, boxing, kick boxing, etc.

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            Your flippant dismissal of what the IBA actually is was: a highly relevant intentional sporting organization for boxing

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      The tests and results are confidential. Stop making a Russian conspiracy out of this. Lame and boring.

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          They were mentioned in an interview. People say things they shouldnt all the time.

          Conspiracy theories are the best way to make yourself look silly.

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            Confidential eh?

            Do you know that conspiracy means: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful

            If she’s not of issue and they’re keeping the results secret/confidential, that’s a valid conspiracy theory.

            Put yourself in her or her coach’s place?

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              It’s silly to out of all possible options to what has happened, to take exactly the one you can use for your rallying cry.

              Not to mention no one is saying this, she isn’t, her coach isn’t, not even the media is. Nobody that matters. Only some online warriors.

              I’m done. This is not worth my time. If you want to believe go ahead, but you know what they say: nobody believes only one conspiracy theory. Bye.

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    That’s right, conservatives want a candidate for the most powerful position on earth to worry about hypothetical nonsensical situations where men will go through years of medical and psychological treatments just to punch women in the face.

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    Shame Vance turned his back on the LGBTQ+. Mamaw tried her best

    “I’ll never forget the time I convinced myself that I was gay. I was eight or nine, maybe younger, and I stumbled upon a broadcast by some fire-and-brimstone preacher. The man spoke about the evils of homosexuals, how they had infiltrated our society, and how they were all destined for hell absent some serious repenting. At the time, the only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women. This described me perfectly: I disliked girls, and my best friend in the world was my buddy Bill. Oh no, I’m going to hell.”

    When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as “Mamaw” — she replied bluntly: “Don’t be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you’re gay?”

    When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.

    “JD, do you want to suck dicks?” she said, according to the book.

    The young Vance, apparently “flabbergasted,” said: “Of course not!”

    “Then you’re not gay. And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay,” she replied. “God would still love you.”

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    “gender eligibility test.” WTF
    I do think you should have some baseline hormone tests because of doping but “gender eligibility” is kind of distopian lol

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      Very on brand for an organization controlled by a government that considers being openly LGBTQ+ inherently harmful to the point that it jails people for it, though 🤬

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    I can’t believe how terribly this is going for the Republicans. They can’t stop themselves self.

    Or it’s just the lemmy bubble and nobody cares? But project 25 that they are failing to distance themselves from like they are stone drunk in front of an officer, the cat lady thing, defense against people calling them weird,…