Whenever they have a spike in demand, the de-regulated prices go up by several hundred percent. Example

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    I’d be shocked that anyone puts up with this, but then I remember how the healthcare system “works.”

  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    Most residents aren’t on these types of plans. The ones that are turn shit off, or pay through the nose.

  • Triasha@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    Most of us don’t pay the market price hour to hour. Our electricity provider absorbs the risk of price spikes and raises our rates if the math stops working for them.

    Griddy was a provider that sells at the market rate, which is usually below the general price you would pay, but you take the risk of price spikes during peak demand.

    • cloud_herder@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      I’ve done lots of tech projects within the retail energy industry in Texas - this is the right answer.

      To expand a little bit:

      Retail energy providers (REPs), like NRG, ClearSky, Just Energy, etc. make their money by forecasting the amount of energy that will be needed as far in advance as possible and purchasing that amount from power generators like CenterPoint and marking it up a few cents. The farther out, the cheaper they can get it. I’ve helped build forecasting engines for a few that ingest historical usage data from meters (all meters in Texas are smart meters), weather data, and others to use machine learning to forecast how much individuals will need and aggregate it together to help the energy traders make better informed trade decisions farther out.

      If they mess up or an unforeseen event happens and they don’t have enough energy bought for that time segment (forgot the term for a window of time they use), they have to go to the spot market which is where the prices fluctuate and can be many many multitudes higher than the rate the customers are contracted to pay.

      In a storm scenario or a freeze, it can be thousands of times more expensive because demand is so high and supply is so limited. This is when REPs go bankrupt if they don’t have the cash on hand.

      There are also insurance plans that the REPs pay for that cover very specific conditions for different types of events or outages that can kick in to cover the huge costs they would otherwise incur on their own buying electricity at that spot rate. I’ve known a few that were only able to stay operating because someone a few years prior had bought an insurance policy that covered said weather event.

      Griddy died because of the ice storm in Texas a few years ago and the huge costs people incurred. I actually met with their CIO the year prior as part of a technology assessment of their stack. Nice guy.

      Edit: also you can largely thank Enron and Rick Perry for deregulating Texas’ energy - which directly led to the terrible “performance” of the Texas grid during the winter storm Uri in 2021. Same for Enron in the constant blackouts in California in the early 2000’s.

  • Curious Canid@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    Energy pricing in Texas is managed for the benefit of the utilities, not their customers. Some of the people on non-fixed plans who got charged insane amounts just went bankrupt.

    Texas is a nearly perfect example of how the Republicans think everything should work.

  • Triasha@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    I thank my lucky stars to be in San Antonio where we have municipal power.

    People complain about CPS (city public service) but we get a say in how the company is run and our bills are quite reasonable compared to the state average.