• TheClockStruck13@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    3 months ago

    The entire military complex is milking the US taxpayer dollar from this war, if Trump were to stand in the way of the MIC and their income… given the presidential assassinations observed in recent history I would imagine that he would have multiple crosshairs on his forehead:.: it would take an incredible amount of patriotic duty to ignore that risk and pull funding anyway.

      • TheClockStruck13@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        3 months ago

        Putin has been on Tucker Carlson and remained fairly clear since the beginning that this war is not about killing Ukraine people (in a genocide as you word it)… in fact the genocide is really happening as a result of US influence, Russia has many legitimate reasons to seek unification of Ukraine with Russian interests, I don’t agree with them, but I disagree that it is a US interest to send US taxpayer money to Ukraine for weapons and arms to prolong this war.

        America simply cannot afford to forever siphon money out of the coffers to Ukraine which then purchase weapons and arms which then make the weapons and arms dealers more powerful and wealthy… it’s a wholesale scam, just as we saw in the Middle East… Orwell predicted this, long drawn out pointless wars that suddenly stop when a new war is created. Today we’re told Russia bad guy, tomorrow it might be palestines Hamas, in the future we may see a forever war with China…

        It doesn’t really matter at this point. America just like other allied nations should stay out of other people’s wars. Military tax money should be on a need to have basis only

        • alienanimals@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          3 months ago

          During the course of the entire war, the US has spent $175 billion helping Ukraine. This might sound like a lot until you realize that in just a single year, the US’ federal budget is $6.5 trillion. So even if we paid for everything all at once, there’s still $6.32 trillion left this year.

          Not to mention most of the money goes back into the American economy. We are spending money on weapons that are largely sitting in warehouses that we would otherwise need to be replaced. Weapons don’t last forever. So for pennies on the dollar we are saving Ukrainian cities from being “liberated” by our cold war enemy that never stopped being our cold war enemy. Sounds like a great investment to me.

          • TheClockStruck13@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            Yea the idea of “oh we get the money back” or “we have weapons lying around” isn’t selling it to me.

            Also, Russia has nukes… we shouldn’t be tempting WW3. The whole thing is eff’d

  • mommykink@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    The Ukraine War would end within a week without US support. It would take a Trump admin doing literally nothing for the war to end. That’s his plan. To do nothing.

    • pikmeir@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      I, too, love when I get to prevent an entire country from invasion by an evil force, but only when I get to take credit for it. Someone else stealing my idea for peace is just as bad as someone else stealing a joke I said first, if not worse.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        You’re talking to someone who agreed with SCOTUS’ decision allowing Trump to commit crimes, just so you know where they’re coming from.

    • BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      We had this conversation in 2016 about beating isis in 30 days. Turned out he lied about the plan. Besides if biden had to follow trumps plan that would mean that it was trumps plan right? It would be a better argument for trump to get into office. It would mean that biden has to do what trump says to get things done.

      The truth is, Trump is lying about having a plan like in 2016. I didn’t fall for it then. I won’t fall for it now. If you’re falling for it again, it’s pathetic.

      • NoSuchAgency@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        Trump did what he said he was going to do, Biden can’t even remember what he said he was going to do. Anyone who thinks Biden should be running things in the US is just living in denial at this point

        • BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          Weird. He said isis wouldn’t exist 30 days into his presidency almost 8 years ago. Isis still exist. Anyone who says Trump did what he said he was going to do is delusional.