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    5 months ago

    Short form content without a profix-maximizing algorithm pushing it to you does sound interesting, not gonna lie

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      Yeah, I can’t do Instagram or TikTok because within 3 videos I’m either getting something inflammatory or selling something. An algorithmically neutral version would be amazing.

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        This confuses me. You want something without an algorithm… because you used systems before their algorithm kicked in and hated it?

        The crap you got was because it didn’t know enough about you to know what you like. Without an algorithm, that’d be your feed forever.

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          This is a decent point. YouTube is cancer if you don’t police your algorithm. If you do (ie: vote on vids, use the “Not Interested” and “Don’t recommend channel” options) you get a very clean and personalized feed.

          You’ll know when YouTube makes changes to their algorithm as you’ll suddenly get some unwanted stuff. For example, when any football videos show up in my feed I know YT is making changes so I flag the unwanted stuff when it comes up and within a few flaggings its back to normal.

          If you open my YouTube home page its nothing but metal bands, production vids, guitar and drum vids as well as video games, racing, sim racing, science and some other long form content. Its hyper specific to my interests.

          I helped pull my buddy out of a bit of a ragebait spiral during covid just by showing him my feed and comparing it to his. He never fathomed the depths that YT would drag him to if he didn’t curate his algorithm.

          The algorithm can be cancer if you engage with cancer. If you pick your content like you pick your fruits at the grocery store you’ll have a much better time.

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            He never fathomed the depths that YT would drag him to if he didn’t curate his algorithm.

            100% this. The algorithms are designed to give you what keeps your attention. You need to be careful about what you give attention to.

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    I’m not a fan of short form videos at all, but it’s cool that exists for those who do :)

    If it has an embed API, I’ll probably add support to Tesseract if there’s interest.

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    I never got into vertical video, not my type of thing.

    But if something like that is a way for someone to reduce stress or do anything in a bored moment, then why not.

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    I never got into the short form video thing but anything to get more people onto the Fediverse is a good thing

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    I don’t watch reels, shorts, tiktoks or any other short for videos and Loops is not an exception. I moved from Instagram to Pixelfed for the sole purpose of getting atleast some audience for my photography since Instagram wants you to post videos instead.

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      Lmao same! I quit TikTok because of their TOS and Privacy Policy. I’ve been looking for an alternative ever since, but none are privacy respecting.

      I wonder how it will work without an algorithm, though 🤔

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        The algorithms are what makes these services. Most interactions aren’t searching and selecting something specific or intentional, they’re just opening a fire hose and expecting the algorithm to pick content they find entertaining for them. It requires the algorithm to have a lot of information, both about the specific user, and about similar users.

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          Would there be some way to have the algorithms localized to the user (or instance)? If data needs to be compared between users, would there be some way to anonymize the data first?

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            It’s a bit tricky but I think a privacy preserving algorithm is possible. Simply put, the more data available, the better an algorithm can be.

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            Or just manage your interests and cultivate your own catalog of creators to follow.

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              I think the easy discoverability on these platforms is part of what makes them so popular. Using TikTok or similar, a user typically wants to be shown new things, it maintains a sense of novelty that keeps users constantly engaged. Having to do this manually would be a huge negative.

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                It’s what’s makes them addictive. Mindless doom scrolling an algorithm.

                Give users control to block and follow whatever without being pushed for “engagement”

                That’s for selling ads