It’s a curious thing. I’m not dismissing any of their claims, but I find it a bit interesting that they can so easily uncover everything that the government doesn’t want you to know when it’s hidden for a reason.

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    Conspiracy theories can be revealed to be true. They’re not all bullshit.

    In the 90s I was in the rabbit hole about Echelon and had a healthy paranoia about my privacy.

    So when Snowden dropped the leaks about mass government surveillance I wasn’t surprised at all. I assumed everyone knew. But nope - apparently Echelon was a “conspiracy theory” and so was all the Snowden stuff until - it wasn’t.

    That’s my personal experience but there’s others like MKUltra.

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      Echelon was not so much a conspiracy theory as a sad game of telephone where increasingly disturbed people projected their increasingly distorted paranoias onto an actual thing.

      Same with HAARP. Yes, it as exists. No, It does not do that. Or that. Or even that.

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          The power comes from the sun. HAARP modulates the magnetic flux from the sun like the base of a giant transistor.

          At least that’s what my local conspiracy theorist told me when I raised the same point. It’s complete bunk of course, but it sounds plausible enough for anyone who is not an atmospheric scientist. Not any less plausible to the average wing nut than the whole story about carbon dioxide emission spectra in the infrared and global warming anyway. There is science words in there.