1. Meta/Facebook has a horrific track record on human rights:
- https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans
- https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
- https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587080/mark-zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-kara-swisher-interview
2. Meta/Facebook is trying to join the Fediverse. We need to defederate them.
3. If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net" (here's how on Mastodon https://fedi.tips/how-to-defederate-fediblock-a-server-on-mastodon/)
4. If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net". Your admin is listed on your server website's About page.
Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.
If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net”
If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.
On your second point, it’s worth calling out that a lot of folks on Lemmy today came from the Reddit API changes. These folks left a very, very active site to a network with substantially fewer users and less content, and still pales in comparison.
I think this serves as sufficient evidence to show there’s a large enough group of people who don’t care for the size/activity of a social network and participate on the principle of less-VC/Wall St funded social media.
I don’t think EEE applies here. Worst case a bunch of servers defederate Threads. If the ActivityPub protocol gets terrible influence from Meta, the protocol spec can be forked.
If, on the unlikely chance, the Lemmy devs start becoming Meta advocates and add ads in Lemmy, the software is AGPL3, it can be forked.
Look at how Linux works around corporate abuse, especially with the Red Hat nonsense. As long as enough people care, a fork is made and maintained, and users will come.
Technically correct but imo not addressing my point:
Even if something gets forked, every time the divide gets deeper and less „social“. The reason why an EEE attempt makes sense is to weaken a competing service with potential. Its enough to weaken it for the devs to eventually lose patience and stuff breaks down.
Because if a million users sees the light and leaves, they have a million instead of the 10 they had before. That is a massive step backwards which took years and years to accomplish.
On your second point, it’s worth calling out that a lot of folks on Lemmy today came from the Reddit API changes. These folks left a very, very active site to a network with substantially fewer users and less content, and still pales in comparison.
I think this serves as sufficient evidence to show there’s a large enough group of people who don’t care for the size/activity of a social network and participate on the principle of less-VC/Wall St funded social media.
I don’t think EEE applies here. Worst case a bunch of servers defederate Threads. If the ActivityPub protocol gets terrible influence from Meta, the protocol spec can be forked.
If, on the unlikely chance, the Lemmy devs start becoming Meta advocates and add ads in Lemmy, the software is AGPL3, it can be forked.
Look at how Linux works around corporate abuse, especially with the Red Hat nonsense. As long as enough people care, a fork is made and maintained, and users will come.
Technically correct but imo not addressing my point:
Even if something gets forked, every time the divide gets deeper and less „social“. The reason why an EEE attempt makes sense is to weaken a competing service with potential. Its enough to weaken it for the devs to eventually lose patience and stuff breaks down.
Because if a million users sees the light and leaves, they have a million instead of the 10 they had before. That is a massive step backwards which took years and years to accomplish.