Whataboutism and race carding at its finest.

I agree with most of what you said but you’re very much misunderstanding the point of resistance insurgencies if you think their aim is to “win” in the conventional sense, i.e. conquer and hold territory. Despite the propaganda, death and destruction, Hamas are fighting the IDF to a strategic standstill. Israel’s stated aim is the complete destruction of Hamas and they are nowhere near achieving it, which alone will be win enough in Hamas’ eyes and will strengthen them no doubt. One purported goal for Hamas was to inflict a situation so awful that there is no way the world could just return to normal after it, which I would argue will have happened by the time the dust blows over. They also aimed to stop Arab-Israeli diplomatic normalisation, which has been set back at least 20 years or so. Of the two belligerents, I would argue Hamas has actually been more successful in its aims.

children born in 2007

So in a few days’ time,17 year olds. How is it so materially different from the 18 year olds most armies recruit and send to the meat grinder?

The Houthi attacks on commercial shipping are literally an attempt to blockade Israel and coerce them into stopping the Gaza offensive.

I was wondering when the braindead momo crowd would show up.

And doctors don’t??

Yes indeed but they were not to remove the settlements let’s be honest! Despite my Muslim background I have nothing against Israel just FYI, this my-side your-side shit is moronic. I have met and partied hard with many Israelis and, if I may say so, the extremism on their side is not part of the common narrative at all. Because most Israelis are lovely modern people, they assume the entire country is like them and genuinely wonder why they are hated so much. Part of me wishes Israel (the secular part) would flat out withdraw from settlements to sweep a leg (one of many) out from under the Muslim extremists and expose the Arabs for the hypocrites that they are. But they never will because Israel has designs of its own my brother, and that is the truth of the matter as much as it may sting.

Hamas is not the magical conversation stopper that is in within Israel. Hamas is the direct result of Israel’s foreign policy and sidelining of moderate elements. Quoting Hamas is like quoting a frothing settler or Likud party member.

“they have denied every attempt at two state solution”

Usual Israeli propaganda to continue the victimhood facade. Israel takes a shit on what a two-state solution should look like, of course the Arabs will bloody reject it.

If only Israelis could stop supporting a genocidal extremist government.

Bet they have proof Hamas did it.

This has precedent, remember the time they found Arabic flight manuals in the abandoned cars of the 9/11 perpetrators? Similarly these fighters had written notes on them in case they forgot what they were up to on the way there.

Given how shady both Egypt and Israel are, I am sure they knew exactly who planned the attack and for when because because the intelligence asset handler reported it in.