It’s definitely a YMMV situation. I’ve heard from lots of people that it runs solid as a rock in Docker, and from others like you and me where it’s flaky af.

I’m glad yours is stable! I don’t know why, but mine, if you’d cut a loud fart near the server Nextcloud would just shit the bed on me. God forbid I try to update Nextcloud.

Like you I had most plugins disabled, and I was the only user. I first ran Nextcloud using NextcloudPi on an rpi4, and that ran solid for like four years. However, when I repurposed that pi and moved Nextcloud to my server in Docker, it just would not reliably run for me no matter what I did. At that point I also wasn’t really using Nextcloud anymore so I just abandoned it as not worth the effort.

I abandoned nextcloud entirely a couple years ago. It was just too damn flaky (self hosted via docker).

Chiming in for Radicale. Been running it for a couple years. It’s great

+1 for Portainer CE. works like a charm.

The inclusion of non-free by default was what was unclear to me from the website. Knowing that now, I’ll likely give Debian a spin next time I need an install.

+1 for audiobookshelf. It’s amazing.

Exactly. That’s ultimately why I skipped Debian and went with Ubuntu

That’s pretty cool!

Ubuntu LTS, with all my services in Docker containers.

I know Ubuntu gets a lot of (deserved) hate for some of the shit Canonical pulls, but for now, I like Ubuntu and it works for me.

When I rebuilt my server at the beginning of the month, I was gonna jump to Debian, but my god the Debian website is obtuse. After looking at the site and trying to determine what to download to get Debian with non-free (I’m unfortunately working with an NVIDIA card), I decided to go with Ubuntu. I needed a smooth rebuild process and with Ubuntu I know exactly what I’ll get when I download the LTS server.

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Again, I agree, but also disagree.

I agree that using a budget can help people make their money work better for them.

The issue is that people can’t budget their way out of not having enough money to cover basic living expenses. No amount of sitting around and trying to allocate money you don’t have to cover expenses you have to pay will make that money magically appear.

And yes, people under constraints can and do do hard things every day. But it doesn’t always work out like it did for your parents. Investing limited resources into moving is a big risk that isn’t guaranteed to pay off.

I’m not saying you don’t have good points. You do. I don’t know if you mean it this way, but your comments make it seem like you’re taking difficult, multifaceted problems and reducing them down to, “Just make a budget and if that doesn’t work, just move.”

That oversimplification is just as unhelpful as the suggestions like “steal” that you’re criticizing.

I mostly agree with you, but I think it’s naive to suggest people under financial hardship can just up and move. Moving is a huge burden in both time and money. It also doesn’t consider finding new job(s), uprooting a family, and that while moving to a cheaper area lowers cost, it generally also lowers wages.

It’s also naive to suggest everyone has $50-$100 a week they can spend on food. There are lots of people who don’t have $50-$100 a month to spend on food.

The people who are suffering most under these economic conditions are the people who have the least ability to take themselves or their money elsewhere.

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i would start listening to podcasts again if something like this existed.

All of your points are great, but don’t consider that I was an Apple TV+ subscriber, so I needed the tv+ app.

Jellyfin is one of my streaming sources, and I was intending to use the Swiftfin app on tvOS, along with tv+ app and apps for the other services I subscribe to. With Kodi I’m now just hitting my local library directly, and using the Kodi add ons for the other services I subscribe to.

@[email protected], yeah, I was being hyperbolic and overly dramatic in my previous comment.

However, what is true in my experience (which I know is not everyone’s experience) is that:

• The Roku software on my four year old tv is now unusable. It is slow, routinely locks up and freezes in playback and/or navigation, necessitating a replacement smart tv solution of some sort.

• I thought that solution could be the Apple TV 4K I already have.

• The Apple TV 4K has a number of software and hardware issues that make it unusable for me.

Those issues include:

• That touchpad remote. My butterfly keyboard mention is referring to the fact that Apple is well known for standing ground for years on their dumber hardware decisions. The touchpad remote was the default and only remote you could get for an Apple TV for six years (2015-2021). The butterfly keyboard was the only keyboard option on MacBooks for five years (2015-2020). The Magic Mouse with a charging port on the bottom is still the default Magic Mouse you get with a Mac. The Magic Mouse was also introduced in 2015 (going on nine years now).

• The login issue I mentioned is the biggest software issue. Despite being logged in to my Apple/iCloud account in tvOS, it prompts me for a tvOS login roughly every five minutes. When I attempt to log in with the prompt (remember, I am already logged in) it tells me I can’t log in. I attempted to resolve this and gave up after 20 minutes of searching and troubleshooting. I pulled the plug because it shouldn’t take nearly half an hour to try to log in to software you’re already logged into.

• As @[email protected] .net mentioned, The TV+ app is trying to be the hub for tv watching, which from a user perspective is confusing. tvOS is the hub, with the apps, and tvOS is still there. I think it’s safe to say that Apple would prefer all Apple TV+ users to use Apple hardware so Apple can have all the monies. With that in mind they probably designed the tv+ app to be its own hub (where within that app you can watch stuff from [insert streaming service]’s content without leaving the app) to try and poach TV+ subscribers on non Apple hardware. From the company’s perspective that makes sense. (Make people think all they need is Apple TV+, and hey, next streaming device we buy might as well be an Apple one.) That doesn’t make my user experience any better. For me at least, it makes it worse. I wanted the simplicity of tvOS as the only hub. (Editing to add that you do need to have the tv+ app installed if you’re a subscriber, which we were until recently.)

• This is preference, and likely something I could have disabled had I gotten past the login issue, but I personally don’t like the bouncy, sticky, wiggly bits they added to tvOS and tv+ to accommodate the touchpad remote.

Edit: also added comment attribution to chiisana.

That’s what I’ve got running now, and for me Seafile is been rock solid.

Before tv+, the Apple TV was a platform with apps for the services you wanted to use. It was simple and intuitive. Want to watch Netflix, open the Netflix app.

Then with tv+ they turned the whole thing into this inception bullshit. Sure you still have apps, but you also have tv plus with apps inside the app and obfuscation as to what’s watchable and what isn’t without subscribing to whatever rando service.

I used to love Apple TV. It just worked. For reasons unrelated, around four years ago we switched to Roku. Well, now, on our tcl Roku tv, which is only four years old, the Roku software runs like hot garbage.

We still have an Apple TV, (4K, dunno which one exactly, but around 6 years old). So instead of buying a whole new tv, which other than Roku’s garbage software, is a perfectly functional tv, I decided to hook up the Apple TV.

I wasn’t thrilled about the idea of using that trash touch panel remote that came with it, but was kinda excited to get back to the clean ui that I remembered.

That’s when I discovered all this inception bullshit. And Apple’s new inability to recognize that I’m logged in to my Apple/iCloud account on the Apple TV device. It kept prompting me to log in every five minutes or so, but then when affirming I want to log in, it would tell me I can’t log in, EVEN THOUGH I WAS LOGGED IN ON THE APPLE TV.

After 20 minutes of that bullshit I tossed the Apple TV back in the box it came from and installed Kodi on a raspberry pi. That’s my new smart tv box.

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted to hell. The Apple TV ui used to be really nice, but when they launched Apple TV+, it turned into this garbage interface that’s terrible to navigate with an absolute garbage remote that took them years to fix (butterfly keyboard anyone?)

(I say this as an Apple user.)

This is ultimately why I ditched Nextcloud. I had it set up, as recommended, docker, mariadb, yadda yadda. And I swear, if I farted near the server Nextcloud would shit the bed.

I know some people have a rock solid experience, and that’s great, but as with everything, ymmv. For me Nextcloud is not worth the effort.

I’ve been running Joplin server for about two years now, and I concur. It’s been great.