A huge deal was made one gay guy was killed for being gay last year. Its doubtful they were killing thousands or people would’ve similarly noticed.

And LGBTQ rights. But I would say it’s true for any theocratic states, except for to its credit Isreal. It just happens to be that most of the ones in today’s world are Muslim. The Christian Fascists of the US are trying to turn the US into a theocratic state as well, and when our laws are based on religion, it’ll be terrible for LGBTQ, too.

Just because they’re not out, doesn’t mean they’re not gay. Israel has 100% killed more LGBTQ Palestinians recently just from all their bombings.

Genocide+

Thank God they’re finally building some chip plants here. The fact that our whole economy depends on some foreign island next to a huge country that has always hustorically threatened to take it back is insane to me. Although I think we should have more manufacturing in the homeland in general. Thanks capitalism, for off shoring manufacturing for the last many decades -_-

Because Trump said what he was going tk do and people didn’t like. He didn’t even win the majority and had revealed himself tk he racist and sexist, of course people were going to protest him.

Thanks for the perspective! So the people saying the US did it, so Israel can do it too, are even more wrong than I thought!

People are losing their jobs just for asking for a ceasefire, not even for saying anything antisemitic. It’s insane. I still feel sorry for that Scream 7 actress.

You mean sending aid to the country defending itself from a much larger more dangerous country rather than the one that’s wrecking a tiny already occupied open air prison just fine by itself? And the first enemy actually poses a danger to our politics and elections, while the second enemy can barely get fresh food and water let alone exert any international influence at all? Hm… Nah, makes too much sense for US politicians… That won’t do.

I mean, it is. Democracies can do genocides without being fascist. It’s not great, but it’s true. The alternative is Trump, who probably wouldn’t even be making lip service to a ceasefire or mentioning the West Bank settlements like Biden has.

They have a cure already. They have giant walls, the iron dome missile defense system, hundreds of drones patrolling Gaza, supposedly a state of the art intelligence apparatus, mass mandatory recruitment (well… Except for the orthodox Jews), large towers, fences, etc. There’s a reason this is unprecedented. They just had their resources positioned to take over West Bank settlements instead, and ignored warnings from multiple sources about an imminent attack. Their leadership fucked up. And are continuing to fuck up by positioning the rest of the world against their genocide.

The thing is more genocide won’t fix the cancer. The US figured that out in Vietnam, North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. It just makes the survivors want to kill you more. That doesn’t fix the cancer like you think it does. It was fine for the US to fuck up those other places because we can just leave and we often make a bunch of money during the conflict, but Israel can’t. They need to learn to coexist, take lessons from places like South Africa, or the UK and IRA. It was actually negotiating that stopped the attacks in those places. They tried the killing everyone thing for awhile but it doesn’t work.

Personally, I think the cure is teaming up with a local alternative secular group, like the PLO, and empowering them without undermining their authority and support by doing things like the shit they do in the West Bank, or preventing travel between the two sectors from, or controlling their water, power, food supply, etc, or giving up on negotiations because Hamas does an unrelated terrorism. It’s like negotiating with MLK, Jr so you don’t have to negotiate with Malcolm X. Hamas has negative popularity but no one has the resources to stop them, and no random civilians are going to bother trying to while Israel controls more aspects of their daily life in a more obviously negative way (electricity, water quality, incoming supplies, travel, work visas, drone buzzing, etc.). And to demand you do before helping them even though you have all the power in the relationship is like the cops telling a mom and pop shop to try fighting the mafia first before they do something about the mafia extorting them.

It at least delays it. And the alternative is voting for Trump.

Stop Israel oppression of Palestine so Hamas doesn’t have a cause to recruit people behind? They’re already not supported by the majority of people in Gaza, but if someone is left an orphan because Israel bombed their block, of course they’ll be easier to recruit to Hamas.

Nah they’re doing pretty great at it. Maybe a little too fast this time, normally they’re better at taking the land and killing people slow enough to give the US and other Western allies some plausible deniability, but since no one is stopping them still, you can’t even hold that against them.

They’d probably need to give them equal rights and not be an apartheid state, too, and stop kicking people out of their homes. But once all that happened, the violence would probably be greatly reduced. The same thing happened with the Ira in the UK, their attacks stopped once they negotiated.

Wtf are you talking about? The straw manning is crazy. They never said Hamas was the good guys in that comment or that they tried to get land through negotiation. They were talking about the relationship with Palestine before Hamas. Hamas was a result of the failures of those negotiations.

If you oppress people and take their land without a peaceful resolution, of course a violent, terrorist group will result. We’ve seen it in other countries, too, from the IRA in the UK to the ANC in South Africa and the BLA in the United States. If Hamas were to disappear an equivalent is just going to appear again without the underlying conditions that caused them to be created being solved, or without full ethnic cleansing, which is obviously the route Israel would prefer.

I mean, some did. With special visas and stuff. That still means they’re occupied.

The difference is that he didn’t accept the peaceful transition of power at all. And they’re at it again with their new Project 2025, they’re aiming for fascism.

Ah I see. Thanks again!

Holy strawman! I never said all the Israelis have to leave. I said they should share the land, like every other developed country in the world that has black people and white people that live in the same areas, or natives and immigrants, etc. I’m not against immigration, I’m against using it as manpower to violently disposess natives and sweep people from their homes, then giving the immigrants better rights while pushing the people who lived there to smaller and farther areas until you get all their land. You know, settler colonialism. Just give everyone the same rights and protections.

There’s a reason there’s only 20% Palestinian Israelis. They were all violently kicked out, then kept in these small, dense settlements of Gaza and the West Banks, and they need special citizenship and passports to travel to Israel or even from one to the other.

I was talking about the nakba, but the West Bank settlements also applies, I suppose. We can call them illegal, but Netanyahu has christened a bunch of them despite what the international community thinks, and it’s still happening.