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Cake day: July 3rd, 2023

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  • I donno, anybody remember Obama? Trudeau?

    Keep this guy accountable and call out the bullshit.

    The last party set the bar so low it’s painted on the floor, so just saying the right things feels like significant progress regardless of if actual actions are taken.

    Reform UK is waiting in the wings for the jaded masses if Labour doesn’t follow through, and the jaded masses don’t understand that voting for the wolf to punish the fox is a dumb thing for rabbits to do.

    As your bard said, words pay no debts, give deeds.




  • I mean, yes eugenicits have used carrying capacity in bad faith arguments. But why do the same and discount carrying capacity entirely?

    TLDR: carrying capacity has been used by eugenicists in bad-faith arguments, but the finite nature of Earthly resources is a fact; ignoring it entirely makes any counter-argument against eugenics inherently flawed and weaker. When paired with the uncertainty created by human invention and potential extra-planitary resources, carrying capacity can be acknowledged as fact but effectively caveated, and instead debate can be shifted away from absolute limits on resources we are unlikely to hit, and to the much more important matter of the distribution of resources.

    There is a finite amount of stuff in/on this little space-ball we call home. Some of that stuff is more rare, and some of it we need more of. There are physical limits to resources on Earth and I think it is fair to acknowledge that as well as helpful to avoid being wasteful with those resources or blind to the disparity of how they are distributed. Not acknowledging such a clear fact instantly gives the people using carrying capacity in an argument ammo to support their other non-factual claims and discount any other claims you make because you made this clearly unfactual claim about carrying capacity being just a made-up thing.

    However, no other earthly species is as adept as humans at modifying their environment and the way they use resources. We find new ways to use resources, or replace resources entirely. See anyone using whale oil for lamps anymore? Nope, we changed what resources we need by advancing our lighting and power technology. We can’t determine carrying capacity for humans on Earth because we don’t know the limits of our ability to invent and adapt.

    Also, at some point people have the potential to get off our home rock and start exploiting resources on other space-balls. The actual carrying capacity for Earth suddenly becomes meaningless. Will we make it that far as a species? I donno, but the possibility needs to be considered when discussing carrying capacity.

    Much more important than carrying capacity is the distribution of resources. Currently, our resource distribution systems are incredibly inequitable and wasteful. As other have pointed out in this thread, at current capacity the resources we extract could address the basic needs of all humans many times over. It’s a human issue that we don’t do that, and that we polute/waste/etc, not an environmental/system capacity issue. We have improved these systems in the past, and we could improve them going forward.






    1. Where will the locals go? They have networks of support, professional networks, etc. those are hard to replicate elsewhere?
    2. How will they afford to leave and establish themselves? This is very hard to do when you already live close to poverty.
    3. What’s to stop the rich folk from bringing in cheap “temporary foreign labour” that is housed in the same conditions? Dishes still get washed, it’s just the poor locals and the exploited TFWs that lose out.


  • IMO, there have been some pretty robust (comparatively) wage gains in America since 2020, relatively few layoffs until recently, a lot of savings from a bunch of places (deferred travel, a break from commuting and childcare costs), some other benefits (mortgage deferrals, locking in low mortgage rates, initially paying down debt, inheritances from dead relatives), and some really strong equities performance. Added together there are a lot of folks with sufficient resources to handle high interest rates so far when otherwise they wouldn’t have.

    Of course, this is also why consumer spending and inflation have also been so resilient in the face of higher interest rates.