Part of being intelligent is being social. Being social means we mirror and sometimes go with the crowd. That’s just how it is. Which means if you think people are intelligent, it means it also should understand they will be susceptible to certain things like this

I remember a study once showing that you can skew the views of any group if only 10% of that group change their opinion.

I think this is really important here because if you’re on an social media and you see nothing but right wing views, I think it does influence lots of people. This is why I get so mad seeing attitudes suggesting we should all just ignore it all like it’s a waste of time.

Wasn’t one of the phone companies found to be purposely slowing down older phones with each new update

So you allow them to influence other people with their ideas?

It’s stuff like this why people in real life all share the same opinion on trans issues and other right wing issues. It’s this stuff that has allowed their arguments to spread. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what you were supposed to be doing. You gave them a red carpet and helped contribute to the spread of their propaganda by disengaging. Changing their opinion was not ever said as a goal. You need to challenge their opinion to show it is badly formed. If it isn’t then you need to evaluate yours.

I would say never disengage. We’ve all lost so much disengaging especially if the argument is difficult. It leaves the argument unchallenged and if you can’t answer it and you feel strongly about trans issues what did you think someone casually viewing it would think.

We need better arguments and we need honesty. If it’s a good argument, it’s a good argument denying it out of feels only weakens the entire thing.

Lemmy is filled with people who gave the right a red carpet treatment. Probably the last place we should ask questions about engagement to.

It’s like asking r/relationship about relationship advice. It’s a terrible idea

I have never known a North American protest to succeed at anything in my lifetime.

There’s so many ways to answer this that I’m surprised it’s asked in the first place. AI is not some be all end all of knowledge. It’s a tool like any other.

But why not ask it for a source if this is information that has some critical piece to it. It’s right far more than it’s wrong and works as a great tool to speed up learning. I’m really interested in people sharing what prompts they used and the wrong answers it produced.

I regularly ask it these questions and have yet to have it too far off of what I’d find from people on any forum.

Here is me asking it today

A heart rate of 178 BPM (beats per minute) can be healthy depending on the context:

✅ Healthy in Certain Situations:

If you’re exercising intensely, such as during cardio workouts, running, or high-intensity interval training (HIIT), 178 BPM can be normal and expected, especially if:

You’re younger (e.g., teens or 20s)

You’re fit and accustomed to high heart rate workouts

General formula for max heart rate:

220 - your age = estimated maximum heart rate So for a 25-year-old: 220 - 25 = 195 BPM max 178 BPM would be about 91% of max, which is high, but acceptable during vigorous effort.

⚠️ Not Healthy at Rest:

If your heart rate is 178 BPM while resting, sitting, or sleeping, that’s too high and could be a sign of:

Tachycardia (abnormally fast heart rate)

Anxiety or panic attack

Dehydration

Fever

Heart condition or arrhythmia

Stimulant or drug effects (e.g., caffeine, medications)

📌 Summary:

Situation 178 BPM

During intense exercise ✅ Normal At rest or light activity ❌ Needs medical attention

If you’re unsure or it feels abnormal, it’s always safest to consult a doctor.

Got an example

Analysis just leads you further down the incorrect path. The answer is in the title. “Overwhelm” the only answer is we all need to make more content and to share and disseminate it. You see someone commenting against one of these bad faith actors, we need to overwhelm them. We need to get better at having fun while doing it. Inside jokes, memes whatever. Just have fun and make 5 messages for every 1 they attempt. We need to act, not study. By hoping we can study this stuff and figure out how to logically argue against them will only lead to more people disengaging because it’s impossible and not fun.

So let me ask you something. We all know that a big part of shaping public opinion online is simply just being exposed to an opinion repeated over and over again. Like when someone says something and then has multiple rebuttals that are similar. Or like when we read an opinion over and over again that is not contested. Given what you said, how do we make headway in shaping opinions publicly by disengaging and allowing their opinions to freely go uncontested. If online debate is a waste of time, why are the just powerful and richest people investing in shaping it while you tell others to disengage

How about asking why you lose the argument instead of trying to label all this crap.

It’s like you’re watching your 12th “how to build a full stack application” video while they’ve already finished their 2nd project.

End of the day what they use to succeed is effort. We don’t. Look at the answers here telling you it’s pointless to engage. That’s why they succeed online. Those people

No you sure as fuck are not 😆

Thanks for making me chuckle

Lemmy is anti most things. I’m starting to realize being on the left is the new curmudgeon

We’re turning into trump supporters with our vilification and exaggeration of real life

Need to count the number of “fascists” per posts to get an accurate determination

Leave Grandma she’s dead weight

Hey everyone, there’s a lot of you. You ever think maybe you can just troll them by none stop posting to all their subreddits. Hell the mods are like the same 20 people in over 5000 sub reddits. That’s a weak point. See, because more than half of you fucks are like “Let me take time off work and i"lll show up in a street randomly, I"ll make this sign with sparkle power and we can like fight the man by standing and marching all day every day I’lll do that but I won’t shit post that’s crazy.” But maybe shit posting is better because we can all see it and laugh and have fun but like when you’re standing in a street in Cincinnati, unless it’s shit posted we can’t all see it. And usually the only people shit posting are fucking proud boys who show up to beat you all up because I mean let’s be honest, they’re blasting and cruising while we’re all playing rimworld. Not to say that all people in the gym are like that, but just they adopted this weird subset in the gym and it works. So let’s trade protesting in for shit posting or something. Just saying. Fucking Luigi them. Also go to the gym fuckers.

I think it’s the other way around. Rich people like Musk helped trump reach the white house. Now they’re making him do their bidding. Trump isn’t the master like his base thinks. He’s a puppet for the rich.