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This seems like asking someone to do your google homework for you. :P Just google that shit and get the specs yourself.

Guy’s over here talking about a story involving tech and magic and you’re talking about how sci-fi works? I think you’re confused about how genres work.

We’re talking about technology in the context of a story here, so whether or not it’s high tech to the reader is besides the point. Which, as I was trying to elucidate, is that what matters is how the characters treat technology relative to magic, not the audience.

Like hunks of metal, but that’s not how I treat smartphones or fusion reactors or whatever. Technology is change, and there is no evidence in Star Wars that technology ever changes. They treat supercomputers with world-altering computational power compared to what we have like old console TVs from the 70s that you have to slap occasionally to make work again. Doesn’t seem like high-tech to me.

They don’t treat it like high tech, they treat it like their granddad’s old beater of a car that somehow never dies or fails to get you where you’re going, but somehow never does a particularly good job either. They treat technology like we treat trees: a brute fact of life with some occasional redeeming qualities.

We don’t treat iphones and AI like we treat cars. Star Wars has literal instantaneous communication anywhere in the galaxy and literal thinking, feeling machines, and they’re like ‘lawl my 9 year old built a stupid robot that speaks 4,000 languages with some plans he downloaded from them thar interwebs!’ Technology, like everything else, is a spectrum - except in Star Wars. There’s no sense that anyone in the SW universe is going ‘Meh we’ve had starships for 10,000 years, but these new laser swords, man those are some hot shit!’ or whatever. There aren’t tech enthusiasts in Star Wars; you get a little bit of the gear-head enthusiasm for ships, but no one is raving about the new must-have gadget or that cool new meta-material they read about. They treat technology in Star Wars like we treat trees: just a brute fact of life with the occasional redeeming quality. Technology is change, and even if it wouldn’t change significantly over the course of the various shows and movies, there’s no evidence that it has ever changed.

Star Wars doesn’t really do ‘super advanced technology’. Like they’ve got space ships and hyperdrive and laser swords and shit, but they don’t treat it like high-tech stuff, they treat it like we treat cars and swords.

Sid Meier’s Pirates!

I played the original when it came out on PC in like 1987. A friend of my dad gave me a copy, but I didn’t have the manuals or map or anything that came in the box, so in order to figure out how to get around the Caribbean I had to crack an encyclopedia to a map, and that got me both interested in maps and also in reading the history of all these places I’d been to in the game.

I still play the 2004 remake of that game a few times a year.

Oh yeah I didn’t think about the fact that it’s porous, shit. Yeah I’ve had my ceramic skillet set for like 15 years and never done anything special with them, but also no salt water and stuff growing on every available surface. Fair point.

Depends: for how long? 1 finger = 10% of humanity has all of their basic survival needs met forever? Done and done, take all 10. Seems like an extremely tiny price to pay to alleviate a colossal amount of suffering in the world forever, and without all those people being distracted by meeting their basic needs odds are technology is going to advance even more rapidly, along with the quality of things like medical prosthetics and neural interfaces and shit. So, yes please bring on the cyberpunk without the dystopia.

Having my feet up helps with back pain because it changes the natural angle that my lower back sits at, which affects the level of strain of the surrounding muscles. I sat with my feet up on my desk for a long time before I finally realized why I was doing it and just bought a recliner and a desk that could accommodate it.

And the people who don’t know that you should check LLMs for hallucinations/errors (despite the fact that the press has been screaming that for a year) are definitely self-hosting their own, right? I’ve done it, it’s not hard, but it’s certainly not trivial either, and most of these folks would just go ‘lol what’s a docker?’ and stop there. So we’re advocating guard-rails for people in a use-case they would never find themselves in.

You’re saying this like they’re equal.

Not as if they’re equal, but as if they’re both unreliable and should be checked against multiple sources, which is what I’ve been advocating for since the beginning of this conversation.

The problem is consistency. A con man will always be a con man. With an LLM you have no way to know if it’s bullshitting this time or not

But you don’t know a con man is a con man until you’ve read his book and put some of his ideas in practice and discovered that they’re bullshit, same as with an LLM. See also: check against multiple sources.

Huh, I haven’t treated my ceramic skillets special at all, just rinse 'em out when I’m done and throw 'em in the dishwasher, or if I have to hand-wash I can just scrub them real quick since they’re not nasty with food gunk all over them. To the best of my knowledge they don’t require special treatment, I only suggest not letting them sit with food on them because that’ll make anything harder to clean up.

I have bad eyes and a love of computers/gaming, so I spent 30 years hunched over a keyboard squinting at the monitor. It fucked my back all the way up, I’ve had chronic back pain every day for ~20 years now. Fortunately nowadays I have a recliner and monitors/keyboard on arms so I can see while in a comfortable position. Take care of your back, kids.

I don’t actively seek out media from both sides of political issues because in the US we don’t really have ‘left wing’ and ‘right wing’ media, we have media all owned by billionaires that mostly stay center-right on most subjects, and let the occasional center-left viewpoint slip through so they can seem to be unbiased. Unless I’m reading Jacobin or other actually-leftist (read:socialist) papers/magazines, all I get is right-wing perspectives.

So that seems like more of a lack-of-understanding problem, not an ‘LLMs are bad’ problem as it’s being portrayed in the larger thread.

You should check your sources when you’re googling or using chatGPT too (most models I’ve seen now cite sources you can check when they’re reporting factual stuff), that’s not unique to those those things. Yeah LLMs might be more likely to give bad info, but people are unreliable too, they’re biased and flawed and often have an agenda, and they are frequently, confidently wrong. Guess who writes books? Mostly people. So until we’re ready to apply that standard to all sources of information it seems unreasonable to arbitrarily hold LLMs to some higher standard just because they’re new.

“Listen, I enjoy hanging out with you, but sometimes people just need some time alone and don’t feel up to hanging out.” is probably a good place to start.

Also for skillets you can just buy ceramic. As long as you don’t let them sit with food on them they stay pretty non-stick for years.

The Bullwinkle Show (1959-1963) is a riot and definitely should not have been around children. It’s as much of a riot as an adult as I remember it being as a kid (though I only ever saw it on re-runs, I’m not quite that old.)