I didn’t say how much I watch fox news. Because I don’t watch it. Why do you ask pointless questions?

I mean… yeah. Are you not? I don’t usually hear people on the left call others too sensitive in that way. That’s pretty much verbatim what you hear on Fox News five times a day every day

But that’s the thing, I’m not sharing a sexuality with him. Someone made him look like a gay stereotype because he hates people like me.

And the whole point is the picture IS to associate him with the LGBT+ community, in an ironic way, to piss him off.

If he made being blonde illegal and threw blondes in jail, that would be a fair analogy. But he didn’t, so that’s a terrible analogy. I mean, there are people that discriminate based on appearance and they’re called racists. So if this was a picture of Trump but photoshopped to look stereotypically Chinese, maybe that would be more of an equivalent analogy

I really appreciate that. I know it’s not the most popular opinion and it really isn’t a big deal, but I’m honestly surprised by the response here. I’ve been losing hope that this was a good place for open discussions, but maybe I just need a break from social media in general lol

What?? That’s the weirdest way to twist my words I’ve seen. Please, make fun of him. I don’t tolerate his bigotry.

I’m saying there are good ways and bad ways to make fun of him. Some people, including me, think this isn’t the best way to do it. Some people think it is. But yeah, maybe this place isn’t for me. It’s becoming too much like reddit imo

And there it is. I knew someone would say that. If you see me as a crying offended sjw with thin skin, then there’s no point in having this conversation. I laid out my differing perspective without being harsh or judgemental, all while feeling no offense.

Personally I’m tired of the right wing talking points that dismiss any different perspective as weak. I’m tired of communities like Lemmy becoming more divisive, with users seeing each other as enemies and not giving others the benefit of the doubt. I’m tired of typing out long comments that I put thought into, hoping people will respond like decent humans, and getting brain dead insults and defensive arguments.

I’ll make a deal with you, I’ll grow thicker skin if you grow some empathy.

Yeah I can see how that’s funny. And I get the irony of the picture. I personally think it’s not in good taste, but I’m not trying to yuck anyone’s yum or cancel someone’s humor. Just explain why some of us don’t like it and try to understand why so many people downvoted the original person who disagreed.

It really seems to be getting more divisive and less welcoming on Lemmy the longer I’m here

It’s not illegal to be a man anywhere in the world. There’s a deep sense of community with lgbt+ because it is, and has been, a struggle for most gay people. So when someone takes a photo of the very person who is discriminating against our community and makes it look like he’s a part of the community, it can hit a sore spot with some people.

Again, I’m not trying to tell people to stop and I get that some people see it differently. But every time I’ve seen someone post that image, someone will say how that image can be interpreted as being gay is a joke, or that saying someone is gay when they’re not is bad form. And everyone dog piles and mocks them or calls them sensitive, etc. I’m mostly disappointed that it’s the same here and most people don’t care to hear a different perspective

Again, I understand the point is that he doesn’t like the image. My point is that there is more than one way to interpret the image, and they’re not all positive. And when some one points that out, they’re downvoted and mocked.

I say it’s lazy because I’ve been hearing people call straight people gay since elementary school. To piss them off. I don’t see how this is much different even if the intent was to criticize his homophobia. The effect is still the same

Most people understand that. But I don’t want to be associated with Putin even as a joke. Fuck him, he doesn’t deserve the honor of even being depicted as gay.

I’m not saying no one can make this joke, but it seems kinda lazy and relies too much on stereotypes to be funny imo

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/politics/intelligence-assessment-dumb-bombs-israel-gaza/index.html

Half of their bombs are not modern bombs.

What does Hamas incompetence have anything to do with civilian deaths?

And what kind of math is that? 50k Hamas would have to be killed for the 300k number to matter. The actual number of Hamas killed is way way lower. There is some dispute over the exact number, but between 6-12k which would be between 36-72k civilians killed.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-12000-hamas-fighters-killed-in-gaza-war-double-the-terror-groups-claim/

I understand your position, but I’m still concerned that it is an attempted genocide due to the high number of civilian casualties, the methods israel has been taking such as using phosphorus bombs and pushing all civilians south to Rafah and then starting to bomb Rafah as well, and just by what israeli officials have said that are genocidal in nature.

Right cuz 30,000 dead in 4 months is nothing. Did you think a genocide means every Palestinian is dead in 4 months? If that happened, every country on earth would have declared war on israel two months ago and every israeli official would be in prison for crimes against humanity.

As it is, the vast majority of scholars and countries do recognize it as a genocide and even America, israels biggest supporter, is saying maybe they should stop the killing of innocent civilians.

If the pace of killing and bombing keeps up for another year, I could guarantee a million Palestinians would be dead. Give me an exact number that israel has to reach before you admit it’s a genocide. Seriously, give me a number.

Yes, israel is just as bad as those other countries.

Even israel doesn’t claim 3000 israeli civilians killed on oct 7th. You’re just lying to lie.

You say israel gives aid, on a post about israelis blocking aid. Yeah ok.

And you’re right, you are checking for civilians. AND THAT’S WORSE because that means you KNOW you’re killing dozens of civilians but don’t care if you can kill one Hamas terrorist. Spare us the pity party while you actively defend genocide.

Those aren’t fake numbers by a terrorist organization, and the fact you are parroting easily disproved lies shows how ignorant you choose to be, especially when israeli officials agree with the death toll

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-many-palestinians-have-died-gaza-war-how-will-counting-continue-2023-12-06/

You demand sympathy from the world while defending a genocide. You don’t have my sympathy, you don’t have an excuse to support genocide, and your hypocrisy is disgusting.

I don’t have to live in israel to know that over 30,000 Palestinian civilians (about half of them children) have been murdered, millions kicked out of their homes and displaced, and their infrastructure, homes, schools, hospitals, electric grid, Internet, and way of life has been (and is still being) bombed into nothing. I know 90% of Palestinians are living in a food shortage, with half of those in severe food and water shortage at serious risk of starvation, with almost all aid being blocked by israel. There is now not a single part of Palestine that is a safe zone for israel’s bombing, which has been going for four months of nonstop destruction surpassing the force of several nuclear bombs. I know disease is rampant, stillborn births are increasing, as they have no way to maintain hygiene or provide medical intervention with nearly everything being leveled including their hospitals.

And I know just a couple miles away, israelis are living life as normal. Going to concerts, parties, eating and drinking. No one is worried about israel being wiped off the map, or overrun, or destroyed because, apart from Oct 7th and some homemade Hamas rockets that have been mostly intercepted, no one in israel is being impacted by the ‘war’

Former IDF soldiers talking about how brutal they have been to Palestinians, former israeli hostages complimenting their captors on their kindness, over 70 years of well documented apartheid, being able to see everything firsthand through social media, the multiple times israeli government officials have publicly supported wiping Palestine off the map, and being caught in obvious lies, all of that is more than enough for me and dozens of countries and millions of people come to the same conclusion.

israel is committing a genocide. It may have been hard to see at first, but as the bodies of the innocent pile up and the hostility of israel continues past any excuse of self defense, you cannot deny it unless you also want Palestine gone or have listened exclusively to israeli propaganda.

Your opinion is contradicted by experts on genocide.

https://time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/

Biden is supporting Israel’s war against Hamas genocide against Palestinians and using that support to direct Israeli policy ask Israel nicely to stop doing the bad things without any consequences if they don’t moving forward. How is this not an absolute win failure to be a decisive, moral leader?

I wouldn’t be so sure. Things are a little bit different than 1967, and more countries are condemning Israel’s numerous war crimes than just those 5 countries

Yeah Israeli leaders are planning and praising the explicit targeted murder of citizens. Netanyahu has supported Hamas for years because it delegitimizes the Palestinian state (and that source is The Times of Israel in case anyone thinks I’m being biased)

It boggles my mind that so many people don’t see the far right Israeli government (that is so closely allied with America) is copying the George Bush War on Terror playbook.

I absolutely agree Hamas is a terrorist organization, but what the Israeli government is doing is far more sinister and evil. They’re just playing the long game and hiding behind “collateral damage” so they can further their apartheid.