This phenomenon is primarily due to fears of high repair costs, lack of technical information, and long lead times for replacement parts.

Vehicles that use batteries as structural elements are more prone to being totaled by insurance companies.

I think you’re missing what I’m saying here. I’m pointing out that Chinese auto makers don’t have the same processes as more experienced companies. They’re just slinging out cars into foreign markets with almost no extra work.

Besides, the article didn’t say the cars are “fine”, it quoted someone saying that they’ve seen some cars that would have been fixed quickly if it was a domestic brand because of part availability.

I don’t understand why you’re referring to China’s regulations all the time. They are irrelevant.

I wish they were, but those cars are made in China. There’s a lot that gets looked the other way.

And someone at Tesla said recently in an interview that they wanted to do a certain thing with the Cybertruck but couldn’t because “we couldn’t get the regulation changed on that one”. (I don’t remember what that specific thing was)

Aside from the batteries and fake auto-pilot, the non-Cybertruck Tesla’s have a very good track record.

It’s both. China’s lack of regulations make a bad thing worse.

lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla.

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/chinese-evs-become-virtually-uninsurable-in-the-uk-says-report/

The reality is that I don’t think any EV is “safe” as far as the batteries go

https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013638

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bev-are-exploding-all-over-china.299443/

https://energytrend.com/news/20221018-30074.html

https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101781161/there-are-about-2000-fires-in-more-than-800000-electric-vehicle-related-enterprises-in-china-every-year

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/chinese-evs-become-virtually-uninsurable-in-the-uk-says-report/

https://www.qatar-tribune.com/article/113062/business/failure-of-evs-in-china-calls-for-more-research

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761067/nio-es8-electric-suv-recall-battery-fires-china

Keep in mind that negative stories from China (anything that casts China itself or people/companies within China) are heavily and aggressively censored.

Downside is that it won’t work if my internet or power is out

If it doesn’t work when your internet is out, then it’s not local.

If you want yourself or your house to burn in a lítium battery fire, then sure, go for it.

Edit: I’m going to tag this post of mine and come back in a few years when all the stories about banning Chinese-made EVs come out because of safety issues. See you all in a couple years.

You’re introducing an argument as a way to undermine the viewpoint that’s opposite to yours.

No one said it’s fine “when we do it”. That’s not the point being discussed.

The other bigger issue here is that these new cars are coming from a region that has a horrendous track record for safety and quality. EVs when done right are still a considerable risk with battery fires, but the ones manufactured in China are much worse for quality and safety. In the next few years, as these cars flood markets around the world, it will be a massive issue.

It’s incredibly easy, and in fact desirable, to not hear anything in that voice.

This is a headline I absolutely did not have in my “things that can go wrong” bingo card.

push people out windows

Defenestrate

Did you really just try to excuse and downplay a company claiming full ownership and rights over all user’s data?

I thought we already did that

While it may not be directly controlled by the CCP

It basically is. The concept of a “company” in China is different than in democratic countries. They’re effectively CCP corporate offices.

No, I meant the wording of you comment is terrible

Ok, sure. You can. You can also just be completely wrong at the same time.

Your comment doesn’t make sense to me.

That’s going to vary heavily based on regional laws. You cannot make such a blanket statement like that.