• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    11 days ago

    Hah what are you going to do, buy a house instead? We’re all fucked once this is the norm.

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      11 days ago

      I don’t know if this applies in the US but multiple people can take out a mortgage against the same property. If you have 3/4 trustworthy friends then you can pool your money to buy a place. It’s complicated but better to invest your money in your own property than to line the pockets of cunt landlords and letting agents.

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        11 days ago

        That would require people to have three to four close friends that could tolerate their presence. That’s an exceedingly rare thing in the US as we’re mostly all intolerable cunts.

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          Not to mention 3 or 4 ppl that can and will reliably make mortgage payments for 15 or more likely 30 years. Once someone drops out because of life events then they’ll want to be bought out by the next person which introduces a whole bunch of headaches. Having watched this exact thing play out, this will most likely turn into a bitter nightmare of endless paperwork and some ruined relationships.

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          11 days ago

          Also, it would require every friend to have savings to put down a down payment and also credit good enough to actually qualify. That’s on top of finding 3 or 4 friends you’re willing to live with.

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        11 days ago

        Co-ownership is kind of a horrible idea overall. What happens when one of the 4 people wants to use the property as collateral for a loan?

        Not to mention that this promotes increase in property costs without fixing the issue. If the norm is to continue pooling money between individuals then real estate can continue to raise prices. Then you just need 6 friends 10 friends 14 friends etc. we need a market crash and we need corporate residential ownership to be heavily regulated.

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          11 days ago

          wants to use the property as collateral for the loan

          Nothing major honestly. If they default, they would lose their stake in the claim. Since they don’t own the entire house, the bank couldn’t foreclose but they could assume ownership of their portion of the loan. The bank would view it more like a financial instrument rather than a real property.

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          11 days ago

          From experience, basically no banks take collateral on co-owned homes. You probably won’t run into problems like that specifically. You can also easily structure an agreement with a lawyer. In many states you have to have an attorney to buy a home anyway (CT, MA, GA, DE, KY, LA, MD, MI, NH, ND, OK, RI, VT, WV, WO). We used ours to write and tack on the equivalent of an HOA arrangement you’d see in a condominium for our shared rooms.

          I do find it amusing we have redditors arguing landlords should be illegal and others arguing co-ownership is a bad idea. Yes, let’s build millions of single room houses for everyone who is single that span the entire continent.

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            11 days ago

            More apartments, town houses and better residential and commercial integration communities would help a lot

            Going full neet and building endless and countless single person dwellings and nothing else with no other changes is beyond stupid tho.

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        11 days ago

        And bam, new laws come out that makes it illegal for more than X people who aren’t related to each other to share a home.

        This is actually a thing in many places so people can’t do what you just described, isn’t American Freedumb so beautiful

        • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          11 days ago

          This is called tenency in common. I’m unaware of it being illegal in any states and a cursory search brought up nothing. Do you have any leads you can share?

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            11 days ago

            I searched “illegal for more than X people who aren’t related to each other to share a home” and came up with quite a bit.

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            11 days ago

            Stop searching using the correct legal term

            Literally no one talks like that, and thus no articles will pull up. Use normal words.

            A search using normal people words pulls up endless articles and links on Google on this topic.

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              11 days ago

              I see it now. I’m looking at tenancy in common based on the original comment, you (and presumably the previous commenter) are talking about unrelated occupancy provisions. One is about co-owning, the other is about cohabitating.

              This is exactly why people DO use exact language, despite your utterly bizarre insistence otherwise - because those that don’t confuse the rest of us with their shitty communication.

            • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world
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              11 days ago

              “You no one use right word, too big. Use small normal word like me, me big big smart, good Google hunter. Me find many result. No end.” Seralth reaches into his loincloth, scratches his scrotum, then vigorously snuffles at his fingertips, oblivious of the glob of spittle making its way down his dirt smeared chin.

              Yours has to be the most American comment I’ve seen this morning. BTW, you’re literally using literally incorrectly.