How does he know? Because he’s that 35 yo pedophile NEET that lives in his mom’s basement
This is me now, except the clouds are aws, azure, and gcloud.
How about instead of ragging on kids these days we see that there is a very serious problem brewing, regarding how we’re expecting to maintain this high tech society we’ve built going forwards. I would posit that it was the planning done by generations prior that has left society in a state where youth are not gaining skills that will be needed simply to maintain the status quo, let alone improve anything.
Nah, fuck em. The world is shit let it collapse and maybe we’ll make something better after
You certainly won’t be making anything.
I already have with my own two hands, a place to wait out this coming crisis and the tools to thrive after
Up until 3 years ago it was just a few miles on a creek my grandad had, now it’s a log cabin for most of the family. Cheaper than you expect even in this economy.
What have you been doing?
From what I’ve seen. They have zero patience to actually learn anything. They can’t even watch a ten minute YouTube video without skipping parts and missing key information
Bro, I can’t be assed to watch a 10 minute video where a third of the content is intro/outro/ad read/filler, even at 2x speed. The information density of a ten minute video by a typical growth hacking youtuber is like aerogel. Why would you want to watch a shitty video, SEO’d to the top of the search results, that will take so long to get you the information you need? That’s the behavior I see from the zoomers. They will actually choose to watch these shitty infotainment videos instead of doing real fucking research.
Every serious psych journal has had at least one published review on the damage that short attention span media causes
But it’s always ignored in favor of corporate profit streams and complacence.
I see you understand what’s going on. Thank you
I do, and probably share your frustration as to how there’s almost nothing to be done about it
TL/DR?
My generation uses and understands tech. This gen just uses it. Or should I say, is used by it.
Wanna see how tech-savvy this gen is? Go up to one randomly and ask them how to “find” text on web page page.
Or how to rotate a pdf page
Who is anon? I know who zoomers are. I hate those people generally. I as a zillennial am uncomfortable being part of a common microgeneration with some of them.
I’m just saying, what’s the point of bragging about tech savviness if you can’t represent yourself in a way you control in the immediate? It’s either utility related or it’s more of an aesthetic appreciation. If it’s an aesthetic question then some degree of identification matters. Maybe after all these decades anon has ironically developed a degree of identity. In any case big data knows who peoples are so I don’t know what the point is in the nomenclature anymore as if it still has utility for actual social reform. I am Fisherman75. You can find my trail of related usernames and related histories and stories throughout the internet. I’m also a musician still trying to make it. Part of how I cope with big data - it’s branding. It becomes necessary, and anon even begins to develop a brand of its own that it finds itself curating ever so carefully. Since you’re not bragging about yourself as an individual it just becomes like a form of technonationalism verging on technostatism.
Jesus Fuck, am I having a stroke?!
When did Millennials get Boomer Brain anyway? If you took Boomers at their word thirty years ago, nobody under the age of 70 would know how to fix a car today .
Now these “Young people don’t understand technology” memes are spreading like a nasty STD. Just endless posts of the most heinous ignorant horseshit.
Meanwhile, I’ve got kids flying homemade drones down at the park. I’ve got to fight through gaggles of teenagers on the way to robotics competitions and hack a thons when I’m downtown for lunch. My local Microprose is stuffed full of people under 30. All the active Linux geeks are practically in diapers, while millennials cling to Microsoft and fucking Apple.
But nobody is using the shitty VR that Zuckerberg is shilling, so Zoomers can’t code? FFS, it’s GenX that’s forcing AI down all our throats.
Don’t give me that “young people can’t use computers” shit.
And on top of that I have enough millennial colleagues who don’t know shit about anything in regards to tech.
Maybe people just reinforce their cliques in their 40s and just think everyone in their age group is like them.
And especially nerdy autists like to gravitate towards technology and ignore all the other people around them.
I mean, most people don’t know how to fix a car these days other than boomers. Sure there are the few which made it their career to do so but I would the majority of millenials and boomers would not know how to fix their car. Let alone a newer car with all the electronics. No one knows how to fix that shit it’s built to be disposable now.
I mean if you work in the industry you would absolutely see a rise, a significant one, in people generally inept at the technical requirements of their jobs that’s factual not “ignorant horseshit” - it’s not that young people can’t learn this stuff it’s that young people grew up in, and are still in, an environment that doesn’t foster learning of these skills or independence at a more personal level so those learning through traditional education are being failed by the system while simultaneously being given tools to make self sabotage easier than ever before and the values that tell people to seek out and do things on your own are quickly going extinct. If someone can’t do something, especially at a wide scale not like one individual who didn’t pick up a skill or something, this is a system problem and yes there are significant systemic problems young people are being faced with in their personal and professional/student lives acting like “that’s ignorant horseshit” is just denying something is wrong, it’s advocating for the status quo, something is wrong, young people are being failed and unless we acknowledge this problem we can’t address it
Yep. All of this is just your typical “I don’t actually socialize with anyone my own age or else I would understand how bad they are with technology.”"
I work with college students all day. They are computer illiterate. It’s like working with the old. Generalizations are sometimes kinda true.
I work with new hires all day and they’re doing great.
I have multiple people at my job who claim to be tech savvy but don’t know how to type on a keyboard and constantly have tech issues when the rest of us don’t. …they’re older than the rest of us though. They just lied on their resumes so it’s okay.
The youngest workers at my org have no issues.
claim to be tech savvy but don’t know how to type on a keyboard
Okay, sure dude. And I know people who claim to be race car drivers but they don’t know how to turn the steering wheel.
The divide is that zoomers don’t NEED to understand technology. They instead default to learning the fluffy user interfaces. Older users were required to know the basics of file systems, and even touch on command line operations just to get by.
Modern kids aren’t required to learn that. They are perfectly able to, but no longer required to. We currently have a lot of newer “mechanics” that are perfectly good at driving, but didn’t really notice there as an engine thing up front to look at.
It creates a binomial split. Many don’t notice the youngsters quietly getting good. They do notice the increase in idiots out of their depth due to overconfidence.
Actually, that has always been true.
Yes the UI has become fluffier. But users have always just used first and most convenient way to do something.
- They didn’t need to know how file system worked, they just put all their files on their desktop.
- Most never used a command line and never will. They would just shrug and do something else if it required it.
- If a button is even slightly moved, to them it is a travesty that fucks over their whole workflow.
The subset of tech savvy users may be slightly bigger, but the majority never learned how computers worked beyond clicking around. That is in every generation. Our vision is just skewed because we grew up in a tech heavy environment.
But if you ever worked in IT support, you’d know that not knowing how computers work is the default in every generation.
They really are terrible. They grew up in the age of apps and don’t know how to actually use or maintain tech.
It’s crazy how GenX/Millennials developed the app culture to make computers and phones easier to sell to boomers, but then it was when GenZ was coming up, so they didn’t learn the ways of yore.
What blew my mind was when I had a teacher telling me about their experiences with Zoomers and indicated that they seem to have a near universal inability to grasp the concept of a file structure. They just apparently can’t wrap their heads around the fact that when you save something that it has to actually go somewhere on their device.
I mean… entirely seriously:
A large percentage of them are also functionally illiterate.
https://www.newsweek.com/gen-z-parents-children-reading-literacy-crisis-2081875
The % of kids that ‘read for fun everyday’ has dropped from 35% in 1984 to 14% in 2023.
Functionally illiterate reading levels of the whole US population?
19% in 2017.
28% in 2023.
Again, for emphasis: 28% of all Americans are functionally illiterate.
They can’t read beyond a ‘Hop on Pop’ level.
Nearly a third of the US population is at a 2nd grade reading level.
And that near 10% increase in 6 years… thats 6 years of Zoomers graduating high school and becoming adults.
… Only gonna be worse for Gen Alpha.
And on Nero fiddled while Rome burned… (aaand now I feel like I need to start appending eli5-esque, super simplistic breakdowns of what I’m saying at the end of my comments…)
Though, I gotta say, this does explain why I’ve noticed such a seeming up-tick in people staring just absolutely nonsensical arguments with me on here because they can’t seem to understand that I’m making points im favor of their argument to begin with lol
