So I’m migrating stuff from my old server to a new provider and only thing left is email.

The problem is I used luke smith’s emailwiz script ( the script and setup itself isn’t a problem ) because it uses system users for managing users with dovecot and friends to setup a mail server.

So now I’m looking for a new email server to selfhost (preferably docker/podman) that in the future I can easilly migrate.Would also love if somebody has a reccomendation on how I could backuo and import emails from the old server.

NOTE: I use caddy as webserver, so the server should have a simple way on getting ssl certs, or abikity to easilly make use if caddy one’s.

  • smiletolerantly@awful.systemsEnglish
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    2 months ago

    It’s a bit unconventional maybe, but I vote simple-nixos-mailserver - IF you are curious / willing to learn nix. It’s essentially just sanely configured dovecot, postfix, rspamd.

    My config for those three combined is about 15 lines, and I have never had an issue with them. Slap on another 5-10 lines for Roundcube as a webmail client.

    Since it’s Nix, everything is declarative, so should SOMETHING happen to the server, you can be up and running again super quickly, with the exact same setup.

    • ShortN0te@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Looks amazing. But the dual licensing scares me. The open variant could be artificially limited in functionality or could end up basic abandon ware.

      • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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        2 months ago

        A project ending as abandonware is always a possibility. One reason projects get abandoned is losing funding, which can be secured by using dual licensing and selling some features to businesses.

        They use AGPL so even if they broke their promise and restricted features, it could still be developed further (even if no new features got added). NGINX also uses a dual license.

        • ShortN0te@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 months ago

          A project ending as abandonware is always a possibility. One reason projects get abandoned is losing funding, which can be secured by using dual licensing and selling some features to businesses.

          That is not my point.

          Having a CE or OS version and an Enterprise Version can lead to conflict of interest. Do you add a feature to the OS Version or do you spend time on the Enterprise feature? There are a lot of examples, Emby is one, others are escaping me right now.

          There are other models that work well like paid support etc. Nonetheless i will stay away.

          • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.businessEnglish
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            2 months ago

            I’m the same way. If it’s split license, then it’s a matter of when and not if it’s going to have some MBA come along and enshittify it.

            There’s just way, way too much prior experience where that’s what eventually will happen for me to be willing to trust any project that’s doing that, since the split means they’re going to monetize it, and then have all the incentive in the world to shit all over the “free” userbase to try to get them to convert.

    • ShortN0te@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      This has been said over and over again. I have been hosting Mail now for over 2 years and have yet to encounter any problems. Although, i would not recommend to set it up manually and rather advise to use one of the ‘all in one’ suggested solutions here in the thread.

        • ShortN0te@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 months ago

          It would be more reliable to use a ‘clean’ not blacklisted static IP.

          But in theory you could just use ddns and update the IP. But I actually never tried it.

          Mailcow comes ready out of the box. Just change the DNS entries according to Mailcow and you are good to go.

            • ShortN0te@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Yes thats why i said in theory. I doubt that many residential IPs are blacklisted, but still not optimal.

              IPv6 only works but there are probably many Mail Servers that are IPv4 only, so you will not receive mails from them.

              If you are serious about it, rent a VPS or get a static IP on your residential connection.

  • ShortN0te@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Mailcow is amazing.

    Importing exporting i would just use any mailclient and drag-drop them over. Depending on how many Mailboxes you have to transfer.

  • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Another vote for Mailcow-dockerized. Used it for about 5 years now and never had a problem.