• mommykink@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Imagine killing three people over a $2 subway fare and parading around the city like you’re anything other than a domestic terror force

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      3 months ago

      NYPD brass said the alleged fare-beater had charged at the officers with a knife and made verbal threats against their lives; he was last said to be in critical condition, along with one of the bystanders

      Yeah, that may have been how it started.

      Body-worn camera footage, which Maddrey said he reviewed before the press conference, allegedly showed the man make a verbal threat to the officers. He told the cops, “I’m going to kill you if you don’t stop following me,” the chief said.

      Definitely sounds like the police at fault, and the guy wasn’t a walking time bomb or anything.

      I get that the situation with the police in the US is cooked, but saying this was over a $2 fare isn’t really being honest about the situation.

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        3 months ago

        I mean, for discharging your firearm in an enclosed space with tons of people around? Yeah, I definitely would consider the police at fault. Should the guy with the knife have been persued once it was revealed he was armed? Sure, I can accept that. But what I do not accept is that the police seem to, despite the absurd modern toolkit at their disposal, only have two tools they actually use: their taser and their gun.

        Why is it that seemingly anywhere else a knife-wielding assailant can be subdued without blood being drawn, but here it results in several people suffering life threatening injuries and one dead?

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          3 months ago

          seemingly anywhere else a knife-wielding assailant can be subdued without blood being drawn,

          Where has this actually happened though? I very much doubt it’s standard practice for any police force.

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    3 months ago

    Maddrey said the officers followed the man, each firing a Taser which proved ineffective in subduing the man. He then exited the train while it was still at the station and charged the officers with the knife, the chief said.

    What, it’s not a good idea to do that now?

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    3 months ago

    According to the comments, the solution here is for the police to get in a wrestling match with the man running at them with a knife.

    Very reasonable thing to expect.

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      3 months ago

      Literally every other police force in the world could handle some untrained bloke with a pocket knife, ditto for a pair. They do it every day.

      But no, the solution here is to never have a system in place where the people catching fare jumpers are the same mentally unstable domestic abusers who are given a carte blanche to kill anyone who does anything less than kiss the ground they walk on

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      3 months ago

      OR MAYBE DON’T FUCKING STALK AND THREATEN SOMEONE OVER 3 FUCKIN DOLLARS.

      MAYBE DON’T BE THE PEOPLE WHO INSPIRE MORE FEAR THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY AND PEOPLE WON’T BE IN FIGHT OR FLIGHT MODE AROUND YOU.

      Do you think that guy just goes around running at anyone with knives, or just the people who got paid $50m to bully the population over a $200k deficit?

      This is a police manufactured problem. Attack the source to solve it.