Depends on where on the base they’ll be working. We had base housing adjacent to the secure area and if he’s working on the houses they won’t care. If he wants to go into the secure area he definitely needs to Uber in from somewhere else.
Uber wouldn’t have permission to come in. Secure parts of bases require CAC cards (ATM machine!) for all vehicle occupants (which was fun when generals would come in, have their cac card scanned and was good… but the driver wouldn’t scan good [didn’t have clearance to come in]. “Sorry sir, you’re going to have to walk, or wait for the Sergeant of the Guard to show up with his golf cart… Your driver needs to leave IMMEDIATELY.”). When standing gate guard on a secure airfield I never cared about the vehicle plates. It was always the CAC card and if the under car scanner went off. The validity of your car’s registration didn’t matter in the slightest to us.
Although that may have changed at this point… I’ve been out for a while.
The main post guards probably would care.
Edit: Oh funny side story. That’s the one time I was able to draw my own rifle on a General too… He was coming in to speak to some Colonel, but never got the clearance (probably was just visiting post and wasn’t from there). He got uppity… I did what the Rule of Engagement specified I do (which does lead to eventually point my rifle at the driver and/or engine block and if they still fail to comply… shoot). Specialist me just doing my duty. He finally got the message after placing a few phone calls acting like I was going to jail… Was interesting to see that amount of ego on someone who probably orders his own people to do the same shit. I reenlisted for 3 more years after this trying another unit/job out to see if the Army was really that dumb… Out of the 4-5 units I was in… only 1 was worthwhile IMO. It basically is that dumb… Mad respect to those who deploy and do the job, I know that it sucks (as it sucked for me). But the leadership… man the leadership could use some pruning. Make it worthwhile for the people that are actually good to stick around rather than letting dumb asses fail upwards so much.
Did you ever transfer to a job that wasn’t MP / SP? Because if not then I might know why everyone around you was so dumb. lol
I had a really good experience in the Army (many, many years ago) but that was because my leadership was also really good. I have heard a lot of horror stories that made me understand how lucky I was.
Just because you have a CAC card, doesn’t mean you’re authorized into the area. As my story stated… I’ve turned away Generals before.
I guess I could have clarified that the general’s drivers were also military… I guess I just kind of assumed most people would have known/figured that out.
Hey I didn’t make the term… “CAC card” was basically how 99% of everyone referred to them. They probably still do. But I think the reason we did was because “CAC” as a stand alone term is awfully close to another word that would be highly unprofessional don’t you think? It’s one of those things you think about in basic training after they issue you the card for about 30 seconds before you stop questioning shit because they’re screaming at your face (which I hear has changed a few years ago…). So maybe they have more like 5 minutes to think about these days.
Depends on where on the base they’ll be working. We had base housing adjacent to the secure area and if he’s working on the houses they won’t care. If he wants to go into the secure area he definitely needs to Uber in from somewhere else.
Uber wouldn’t have permission to come in. Secure parts of bases require CAC cards (ATM machine!) for all vehicle occupants (which was fun when generals would come in, have their cac card scanned and was good… but the driver wouldn’t scan good [didn’t have clearance to come in]. “Sorry sir, you’re going to have to walk, or wait for the Sergeant of the Guard to show up with his golf cart… Your driver needs to leave IMMEDIATELY.”). When standing gate guard on a secure airfield I never cared about the vehicle plates. It was always the CAC card and if the under car scanner went off. The validity of your car’s registration didn’t matter in the slightest to us.
Although that may have changed at this point… I’ve been out for a while.
The main post guards probably would care.
Edit: Oh funny side story. That’s the one time I was able to draw my own rifle on a General too… He was coming in to speak to some Colonel, but never got the clearance (probably was just visiting post and wasn’t from there). He got uppity… I did what the Rule of Engagement specified I do (which does lead to eventually point my rifle at the driver and/or engine block and if they still fail to comply… shoot). Specialist me just doing my duty. He finally got the message after placing a few phone calls acting like I was going to jail… Was interesting to see that amount of ego on someone who probably orders his own people to do the same shit. I reenlisted for 3 more years after this trying another unit/job out to see if the Army was really that dumb… Out of the 4-5 units I was in… only 1 was worthwhile IMO. It basically is that dumb… Mad respect to those who deploy and do the job, I know that it sucks (as it sucked for me). But the leadership… man the leadership could use some pruning. Make it worthwhile for the people that are actually good to stick around rather than letting dumb asses fail upwards so much.
Spotted the crux of the matter.
Did you ever transfer to a job that wasn’t MP / SP? Because if not then I might know why everyone around you was so dumb. lol
I had a really good experience in the Army (many, many years ago) but that was because my leadership was also really good. I have heard a lot of horror stories that made me understand how lucky I was.
Active duty military can drive for Uber and they would have common access card cards.
Just because you have a CAC card, doesn’t mean you’re authorized into the area. As my story stated… I’ve turned away Generals before.
I guess I could have clarified that the general’s drivers were also military… I guess I just kind of assumed most people would have known/figured that out.
Common Access Card card? Lol
Hey I didn’t make the term… “CAC card” was basically how 99% of everyone referred to them. They probably still do. But I think the reason we did was because “CAC” as a stand alone term is awfully close to another word that would be highly unprofessional don’t you think? It’s one of those things you think about in basic training after they issue you the card for about 30 seconds before you stop questioning shit because they’re screaming at your face (which I hear has changed a few years ago…). So maybe they have more like 5 minutes to think about these days.