• aidan@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    So, a mother has a choice to opt out of paying for a child if they can’t afford it. But a father is given the same choice.

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      10 months ago

      The father made that choice when he decided it was a good idea to fuck without protection. You don’t get to undo mistakes you made by telling someone else to undergo a medical procedure they don’t want. It doesn’t matter if you realized your mistake the next day and started telling them to use plan B. You can not want a baby all you want, but the only thing that matters is, did you willingly play your part in making it?

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        10 months ago

        The father made that choice when he decided it was a good idea to fuck without protection.

        I agree with your basic argument, but this point in particular is dumb for 2 reasons

        • Unless the father is a rapist, they both decided to have unprotected sex

        • Condoms fail sometimes. Wearing one significantly reduces the likelihood of pregnancy but it’s hardly a pancea. Any competent sex-ed teacher should have explained that

        That being said, there’s no ethical way to give a man control after conception and allowing them to bail on child support eould be detrimental to society. Single mothers have it hard enough already.

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      10 months ago

      The mother clearly has a bigger stake in pregnancy than a father and I can’t believe this needs to be explained. Yes, women get to choose if they want to be mothers for a variety of complicated and nuanced reasons. For men they can simply choose to not raw dog a woman. Obviously it’s different if they were raped or their semen was stolen but those are much more rare cases.

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        10 months ago

        And, generally, the women also have the exact same choice. Yet they are given much more of a choice post pregnancy test.

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      10 months ago

      Yes. Everyone should have autonomy over their own bodies, especially when it’s a matter of something as major as pregnancy. Pregnancy is a medical condition, and the only person that should (legally) have any input in medical decision making for pregnancy is the person that’s pregnant.