Likely under the command of law enforcement and without informing any clients.

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      Ahhh. Going after Russian services of course.

      Knowing the German government I’m not terribly surprised Hetzner was forced to comply quietly. But still, if they’ll do it for one user, they’ll do it for everyone. Really sucks.

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      There’s no provider that’s going to be more safe than Hetzner, tbh.

      If a provider doesn’t comply, you’ll just get special services raiding their DCs instead.

      And if you switch to a VPS provider, you’re even more exposed.

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      Had a friend that got a cheapo Gigabyte NUC and he needed to use a dummy HDMI for it to even boot. As it, it wouldn’t boot w/o a monitor. Take heed.

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    Interesting 🤷‍♂️ I’ll check news on this. I won’t use Hetzner if its true.

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      Please do. An unsubstantiated reddit thread does not a story make- but the more people we get to look into it, the more likely someone will corroborate it (or not)

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      If want something that is immune from law enforcement wiretap warrants, you should avoid basically all hosting and internet service providers.

      Read the TOS on virtually every service. There’s some language to say that they will comply with legal requests. The company is not going to fight the government for your $5 account.

      Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Facebook, etc all have wiretap and legal discovery tools built into their platforms and have a dedicated team to process wiretaps.

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        Stop the service and inspect the machine for law violations. I’m ok to that. But proxying the network without a notice is literally spying.

        Reverse the case, if a Chinese/Russian provider did this, would you still be OK? It’s funny US and west countries blaming easterns for spying while doing far far more.

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          The entire term wiretap comes from spying on phone conversations upstream without the target’s knowledge. This is no different.

          China and Russia are 1000% doing this and more to anything hosted anywhere under their jurisdiction. The CCP brags about the Great Firewall.

          I don’t necessarily agree with any of it, but I am pointing out that changing providers to one who wasn’t in the news is not a way to get around government data collection.